Tomkins is a terrific back rower. Unfortunately on Friday he seemed more intent on proving how tough he was than proving what a top player he was, which manifested in a few cheap digs.

He's only young though and the more big games he plays in, the more his focus will be on doing what he does best.

But since when have ANY of the SL refs known about rugby

I think tomkins is a decent player with a bright future.. However both Anderson and westwood played better than him on fri night.

Joel is squeaky clean compared to the lot you have had over the years the Les Boyd era springs to mind and we all know who the rest are,

Nothing wrong with being a bit dirty... After all it's not a tickling contest... Tomkins problem is he gives away loads of stupid penaltys.... But I'm sure that will be coached out of him.

Having watched the game again I am concerned about Joels petulance (stupidity). However the two most deliberate acts of foul and dangerous play were Morleys challenges on the kicker, both times with his feet (one on Sam and one on Tommy)

I will be surprised if it's not picked up in the match commissionaires report, and he at least gets a warning for it. They were dangerous.

Come on Brian you don't really believe the RFL will pick up on Wire?
Leeds and Warrington are protected species.
Both those clubs can dish out what they like and the RFL won't go near them.

Morley should have been binned for the first attack (he wouldn't have had to chance to make the second); automatic sin bin for a late hit on a kicker as per the rules. Silverwood chose to ignore both and as such he should be looking at a game or two ban.

I bet he gets another warning letter

I dont think Joel's petulance started until after Wire had taken out the kicker and done a few late and high hits and got away with them. After that i think he just thought fook this im gonna start doing it too. Thats the problem when the ref lets one team get away with murder.

He dove and landed on his head, after he'd put the ball down uncontested, can you honestly say that A; he had cause to dive on top of him like that or B; he was in any way attempting to tackle or prevent myler putting the ball down or hold him, he didn't he just launched himself on him.

How come you lost


J Tomkins is a penalty machine, along with Coley and Lockers, sad but true.

Kelvin skerret!!!!!!!your turn.

No, there is no further discussion after somebody has played the Les Boyd card - the dirtiest player of the past 30 years both here and in Australia.

Alan Rathbone would give him a run for his money !!!

Just watched it now and it was very late and a ban is in order

Rambo was an amateur compared to Les who housed his way across 2 continents

Just posted on another thread that Morley and Peacock seem to get away with committing a lot of high/rash challenges. Morley should have been suspended at the beginning of the season for a horrendous challenge in the game the week before Wigan played Warrington, but he "got off" along with Carvell who was also put on report.

GB players/glory boys and the Warrington and ex Leeds coach apparently may still have some influence at RFL - allegedly.

It beggars belief that neither has been suspended this season. How was Peacock's assault on Sam less severe than Coley's admittedly rash challenge against Catalans? And why wasn't Senior sinbinned for kicking Joel's head/face. Irony of ironies, Farrell who had only come on to replace a bleeding Joel was sinbinned a couple of minutes later when he collided with Maguire, having jumped into the air before he kicked in an attempt to charge down the ball. That along with Ganson's inexplicably not awarding an attacking scrum when Smith knocked on just before half time ( very similar to Mathers on Friday and Child's 100% glaring and inexplicable error) all contributed to Wigan's defeats more than the knock-ons etc!

This is not "sour grapes" - but just a request for a fair crack of the whip and consistency from all officials and the RFL.

I was concerned on Friday at 3 instances of players faking injury by lying spread-eagle as if out cold only to jump straight back to their feet within 3 seconds when no penalty was forthcoming.

No room for this in type of cheating in rugby.

What 3 instances were these? I noticed Tommy did something like this.

You cant really comment though when you have Lee Briers who makes out he has been shot whenever he is touched at the PTB

Yeah i remember Tommy acting like a starfish and it made me chuckle as it was bleeding obvious what he was up to.

However Briers has been a past master of this for the entirety of his career.

Specsavers for you, plus a course in customer relations would not come amiss.

Yeah i noticed that too, which i thought was unlike Tommy, i hate that sort of thing and it's why i don't watch football anymore. Although that thing worked for Danny Maguire. oh well, i hope it doesn't creep into Rugby League

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Agree, should get a ban.