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| Just noticed that Thurston has a criminal record for being drunk in a public place. So even if we were to sign them would they get their visa stamped?
has Big willie and O'meely not also got convictions?
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| I like the idea of Fielden and Webb starting the game with Feka coming on for Webb after 20, both interchanging smashing up the line for the full 80 between them.
Not my first choice but a good signing if it happened.
I'm surprised about the news that Thurston is looking at SL clubs, he's the starting 7 for the test team and he's only 26. A classic example of an Aussie player linking himself to the SL to get a better contract.
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| I like the idea of Fielden and Webb starting the game with Feka coming on for Webb after 20, both interchanging smashing up the line for the full 80 between them.
Not my first choice but a good signing if it happened.
I'm surprised about the news that Thurston is looking at SL clubs, he's the starting 7 for the test team and he's only 26. A classic example of an Aussie player linking himself to the SL to get a better contract.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"I like the idea of Fielden and Webb starting the game with Feka coming on for Webb after 20, both interchanging smashing up the line for the full 80 between them.
Not my first choice but a good signing if it happened.
I'm surprised about the news that Thurston is looking at SL clubs, he's the starting 7 for the test team and he's only 26. A classic example of an Aussie player linking himself to the SL to get a better contract.'"
Where is it stated that Thurston is looking for a SL club? I doubt he is.
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| Quote ="Boris"Where is it stated that Thurston is looking for a SL club? I doubt he is.'"
I t was a brief discussion on boots and all this week.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"I t was a brief discussion on boots and all this week.'"
Well that is interesting.
I doubt anything will come of it other than Thurston getting a bigger contract in the NRL.
Thurston, however, is the type of 7 we need.
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| Quote ="Boris"Yes I would. DId you watch the match today? He is too hit and miss. That is why the Broncos off loaded him back at the end of 2004. He is not the right type of player for Wigan. We need a workhorse prop and a two 25 minute stint prop.
Carl Webb's contract is until the end of the 2010 season and he is meant to be on $300,000 Aussie per year. So what is that in English? About £140k a year? Value for money on that wage? Further, I guess we would have to pay over the odds to get him out of his extra year?
Luke Bailey at the Gold Coast is off contract. WHy not go for him?'"
We already have three workhorses in O'Carroll, Prescott and Fielden. People keep saying we need an enforcer to run alongside Feka. I can't think of anyone else in RL I'd rather have alongside me than Carl Webb if I was in need of an enforcer.
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| Carl Webb is a nasty piece of work.
Fantastic. Just what we need at Wigan.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"Carl Webb is a nasty piece of work.
Fantastic. Just what we need at Wigan.'"
Couldn't have put it better myself
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| Quote ="Cruncher"We already have three workhorses in O'Carroll, Prescott and Fielden. People keep saying we need an enforcer to run alongside Feka. I can't think of anyone else in RL I'd rather have alongside me than Carl Webb if I was in need of an enforcer.'"
I do not agree we need an enforcer. Surely Feka is supposed to do this? IF not, then I am convinced there are cheaper alternatives than Webb. He is simply too hot and cold. Anyone who has watched him since his early Broncos days will tell you this.
We have workhorses but they do very little. What we need is two props who can work for 60 minutes and keep making yards. Much like the Aussie frontrowers, Price ad Petro. Add this, and Feka and Fielden will appear as two new players.
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| Quote ="LewCharnock"Couldn't have put it better myself
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Bout time we got some fight!
And with the returning newton next year and Gaz Hock will have far more fight...
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Bout time we got some fight!
And with the returning newton next year and Gaz Hock will have far more fight...'"
I keep hearing this from a number of people too!
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| Quote ="LewCharnock"I keep hearing this from a number of people too!'"
Did I say that outloud? How bad of me!
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Bout time we got some fight!
And with the returning newton next year and Gaz Hock will have far more fight...'"
Just think how many penalty's that team is going to be giving away a match.
Anyhow, Newton, is it what we need? We already have 3 players who can play at 9.
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| Quote ="Boris"Just think how many penalty's that team is going to be giving away a match.
Anyhow, Newton, is it what we need? We already have 3 players who can play at 9.'"
I never said if it was a good or bad thing, I don't pick the team or buy the players! (Unfortunately)
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"I never said if it was a good or bad thing, I don't pick the team or buy the players! (Unfortunately)'"
Indeed you did not! But surely this is a bad idea!
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| Quote ="Cruncher"We already have three workhorses in O'Carroll, Prescott and Fielden. People keep saying we need an enforcer to run alongside Feka. I can't think of anyone else in RL I'd rather have alongside me than Carl Webb if I was in need of an enforcer.'"
exactamudo.
you cannot knock the effort of the three mentioned players. what we need is a big Orrible prop with a nasty streak and a world renowned reputation as an enforcer. to me this is Webb or O'Meely.
the signing of a player would perhaps help Stu get his viciousness back because he would know he has the backup (like he did at the bulls).
it is no good signing a world class halfback if they aint got any room to play in. both our current half backs are excellent in open field running. Although we need an organiser, I feel that the room a strong pack would give us would be massively beneficial to our current half backs.
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| Quote ="tugglesf78" or O'Meely.
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He would do. Webb is a fat second rower.
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| Quote ="Boris"Indeed you did not! But surely this is a bad idea!'"
I don't know what the situation will be with Riddell/McC/Tommy next season.
Why I personally think overall Newton is the better of the 4, I don't see the need for anther number 9 (looking at the current team).
Personally I like McC and watched Tommy play very well in the WC at 9, in the final he out played Cam Smith which is no mean feat. But I really don't rate Riddell.
Looking at it from this angle I would like to see a new 7 come into the team and Tommy/McC work the interchange. Obviously, as far as we know, we can't just get rid of Piggy (contracts) but he's the worst for me.
But I have this crazy idea of getting in a new 6 and 7 and putting Sam T at FB for a season or two.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"I don't know what the situation will be with Riddell/McC/Tommy next season.
Why I personally think overall Newton is the better of the 4, I don't see the need for anther number 9 (looking at the current team).
Personally I like McC and watched Tommy play very well in the WC at 9, in the final he out played Cam Smith which is no mean feat. But I really don't rate Riddell.
Looking at it from this angle I would like to see a new 7 come into the team and Tommy/McC work the interchange. Obviously, as far as we know, we can't just get rid of Piggy (contracts) but he's the worst for me.
But I have this crazy idea of getting in a new 6 and 7 and putting Sam T at FB for a season or two.'"
I agree vis-a-vis McC and Tommy at 9. Riddell was always an odd choice for mine. He was avergae at best in the NRL. One week he was hot, for the next 6 weeks you would not even know he was playing. I'd bin him, and keep the rotation of Tommy and McC at 9.
As for tomkins at fullback i can see some thinking in this. Lockyer afterall is a fullback turned into stand off. Many of the top fullbacks are ball players. Kurt Gidley, Karmichael Hunt etc. It could work.
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| Quote ="Boris"I agree vis-a-vis McC and Tommy at 9. Riddell was always an odd choice for mine. He was avergae at best in the NRL. One week he was hot, for the next 6 weeks you would not even know he was playing. I'd bin him, and keep the rotation of Tommy and McC at 9.
As for tomkins at fullback i can see some thinking in this. Lockyer afterall is a fullback turned into stand off. Many of the top fullbacks are ball players. Kurt Gidley, Karmichael Hunt etc. It could work.'"
If you watch many of the NRL teams they really use their FB. on some teams the FB is their main source of attack. They link up superbly in attack as a deep lying second receiver and are used to create overlaps to out number out wide.
Just watch KM Hunt, Gidley Slater and Stewart.
All outstanding and create so many attacking options, Manly have really missed Stewart this season, and Slater was rated best player in the world and he's a FB.
How was this benefit Sam? for starts he won't be in the thick of it and under so much pressure to create every time he touched the ball. He could watch and observe more experienced halves from on the field with them and overtime revert back to being a running 6.
Remember, Brisbane did this with Lockyer and we did this with Shaun Edwards, and they turned out alright!
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| Quote ="Boris"Indeed you did not! But surely this is a bad idea!'"
I couldn't agree more. Newton is now knocking on and, as you say, the number 9 space is already getting crowded. If Riddell goes - seems unlikely to me, but you never know - I'd stick with Tommy and McIlorum. Another hooker would just deprive us in areas where we really are needy.
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Personally I'm glad. We need to aiming a little higher, IMO.
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Personally I'm glad. We need to aiming a little higher, IMO.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"If you watch many of the NRL teams they really use their FB. on some teams the FB is their main source of attack. They link up superbly in attack as a deep lying second receiver and are used to create overlaps to out number out wide.
Just watch KM Hunt, Gidley Slater and Stewart.
All outstanding and create so many attacking options, Manly have really missed Stewart this season, and Slater was rated best player in the world and he's a FB.
How was this benefit Sam? for starts he won't be in the thick of it and under so much pressure to create every time he touched the ball. He could watch and observe more experienced halves from on the field with them and overtime revert back to being a running 6.
Remember, Brisbane did this with Lockyer and we did this with Shaun Edwards, and they turned out alright!
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You'd just worry about the hammer he would get running the ball back from kicks. He looks to be a decent defender, but he doesn't often get tackled front on by 2 or 3 forwards like he would from a decent kick-chase.
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