His hubris was a factor in our failure to win the big games last season - at the moment he doesn't seem to have learned from last season's mistake when he opens his gob. I wish he would just STFU sometimes and follow the Madge route of quiet dignity.

Quite frankly this is embarrassing, a poster posts a fair comment reflecting on Wane's discussion of Faz's defence (which by the way was absurd considering how well Faz has been playing) and you twist and turn it into a personal attack.

This is the kind of childish petty attitude that stifles genuine discussion about Wigan RL and league in general, it was clearly nothing more that a snipe, a dig for no reason, well done on lowering the tone to such a level.

Amen to that.

I don't know if anyone has picked up on this but Maguires side lost a BIG game this weekend. As such you'd expect to find a decent number of sites quoting Madge's thoughts on the game right? I can hardly find any quotes or statements from Madge regarding the game! That's how it should be with Wane imo. The talking should be done behind closed doors at Orrell.

I really don't think it's Wane's interviews, or our "win every game approach" that's damaged us in the big games, more that Leeds & Wire are more experienced sides with a nucleus of players that have won a lot of trophies. It can be quite difficult to force a "changing of the guard" when sides are so dominant, you just have to wait til the opportunity presents itself and strike.

We're well in the trophy hunt, but sides like Leeds & Wire will be thereabouts because they're good teams, full of experience, that know how to play under pressure. Not because they held off and only gave the lower sides a bit of a beating rather than blowing them off the park.

It is strange, some would say its reverse psychology maybe, an attempt at keeping Farrell grounded but I worry comments like these could have an adverse reaction. It started a couple of weeks ago when opta were showing that Farrell had not missed a single tackle and wane came out and said "it was a bit generous as he has definitely missed a few"

its interesting that wane is having a moan about farrell's defence when 1 of his favourite love childs micky mac as been poor in his tackling this season, but not a word (not having a go at micky, i think he's top draw but just wish criticism was fair) also i cant remember him having a go at hocks defence last year even though hock isn't in the same league as farrell when it come's to defence.

He was probably asked directly what he thought of Farrell's defence. I'm sure if he was asked about Micky Mac's defence he'd be critical of it.

Why are people so bothered about his "media skills"

Who cares?

In regard to Farrells defence, nonody reckon he is just taking the mick a bit?

He goes out and says "his defence could be better" then goes back to the team where Faz says "cheers for that boss".

Wane replies "its ok son dont want you getting too big for your boots".

It prob isnt but it comes across like an inside joke to me aimed twofold to annoy ppl that dont like Wane and for everyone to look at just how well Faz is doing before defending him.

Best way to highlight your players stats is probably to say something negative so ppl go and look.

You say Sam has been great with line breaks everyone nods, you say he could do more and suddenly everyone checks and ups arms because he is top in that regard.

My sentiments exactley, who gives a sh*t! At the end of the day a lot of you where knocking Wigans credentials and Wanes squad rotation in the friendlies before the season had even started i think you should at least eat your humble pie, you owe him that at least for the way he's got the lads playing. What a lot of you dont realise nor think about before you post is from coaches gone by John Monie, Mag etc.. Wane has got some serious acts to follow and im sure with the type of winner he is, he will want to be the best of the lot so we have no right to criticise how, why or what he expects from his players, he's a Wiganer thru and thru it's in the veins we cant ask for more than that!

To be fair to Wane, defence isn't just about making a lot of tackles and having few missed tackles. Farrell has given away more pens than any other player in in the squad, usually in the tackle or PTB. There is also the question of being in the correct position in the defensive line to make the tackle in the first place. These may the areas for improvement to which Wane is referring.

I can only thank God that the biggest talking-point about the Wigan coach is his media skill.

Sometimes our memories are just too short for our own good.

I think Agent Brown is doing a fine job over the lump

Agent Millward did a far better job

I'm sure you mean Passenger Millward, because it must be pretty clear to all by now that he was very lucky indeed with the team he got at your club. When he had players under him less well equipped to coach themselves, he was proved clueless.

I'm sure you lot knew that of course. The big sit-in was just a prank, wasn't it?

Indeed.

In fact their short term memories are rubbish too. Wigan's chances were being written off at the start of the season by many in the media (and quite a few Wigan fans).

Surely Wane deserves at least some of the credit for how we've been playing and how well the side has coped with major personnel changes and injuries?

Instead Wane appears to be the latest in a long line of targets for the lynch mob elements amongst the Wigan fans. As fans we showed we were the best in RL when we got behind the club in the dark days of the mid-noughties, our unprecedented show of support for our then failing team overshadowing Saint's greatest era of success, but still we let ourselves down with things like this.

Some of you lot must look for the tiniest little things to snipe about



Alright he may not have the best media savvy approach in the world but I didn't know that was part of his job description , he's coaching a team thats winning and playing an attractive style of rugby ( well , they entertain me anyway when I watch em on the box , I only watch it just incase they lose

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Shaun Wane showed a real touch of class when he went round to shake each Leigh players hand after Fridays match , the blokes gone up in my estimation



Right I'll leave you to your sniping

Still believe that after yesterday?

I'd like to see Wane sign a 'lifetime' deal at the end of the year ala Brian McDermott at Leeds.

I love reading back these threads. The usual numpties shown up again.

You'd think they'd learn

What happened to Vectrabeast.. I do miss him

Nothing much more to say really.

FWIW - Is there any possibility of Brett being allowed back onto the forum? A long term poster and not that bad compared to some we've had over the years!

Looking forward to his return myself... Where is the petition!! Or dare i say, an announcement!!

I think it's always poor form to go digging months back to find an opinion that can be made to look stupid with the benefit of hindsight.

We have plenty of good things to talk about rather than do that.

Locked.

You'd have to plead with Wigan/Leeds Andy for that one. It's his ban.