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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"see this word IF means right away it never actually happened so you have made up a statement and thought it was fact.....it wasnt
why didnt Wigan say to Gleeson just wait until your contracts up and we'll have you for nowt...
thats brilliant business not shelling out 100k'"
Brilliant business from Wigan. We sign one of the best centres in the league for this season. So he can have an immediate impact on the squad and instantly improve the team.
We get rid of one of the worst players in super league in the process. Better still it's Mathers and he's gone to Warrington.
At the start of the season we would have paid 100K for you to take Mathers let alone get Martin Gleeson in exchange.
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"see this word IF means right away it never actually happened so you have made up a statement and thought it was fact.....it wasnt
why didnt Wigan say to Gleeson just wait until your contracts up and we'll have you for nowt...
thats brilliant business not shelling out 100k'"
Because Wigan - Unlike Wire - Have expectations of our team.
Not just hopes/wishes/pipe-dreams.
We are a club that has seen success, and expect our players to hit certain levels. The fact that they are not doing it this season means that we need to make adjustments mid-season - Not just write off another year, as "certain" other clubs might do (or panic-loan an NRL star for 4 weeks to take a vast sum of money and offer almost nothing in return).
Enjoy Mathers mate - Just be careful not to give him too many water-bottles to carry at once. He's a rather delicate little flower is Shïtchie.
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| Quote ="DaveO"Surely what you meant was "Why has it taken so long for IL to get his wallet out? We have missed out on at least two decent props because it was locked in his pocket"
Dave'"
I assume you mean Ryles and Carvell?
Carvell was a biggish fee for a man who hadn't been playing much rugby over the last two years
And Ryles is now an expensive drain on Cat's SC.
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| but you lot aren't mentioning the one hundred thousand pounds....
it wont go away cock...thats how much you spent on him.......
plus Richie mathers.....
Mathers I'm not too bothered about, we need competion at full back if he isnt good enough to play we wont play him, if he is great ...
no Wire fan is saying Mathers is superb but no wire fan is saying
"ooooo look weve done a straight swap gleeson for mathers......"
I'm happy with the deal, a couple more to get rid and we'll go fine
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| With this signing and no indication that anyone else is leaving yet, it does make you wonder how much Mathers was on and how much we really did have spare on the salary cap.
Gleeson must be on a six figure wage.
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"but you lot aren't mentioning the one hundred thousand pounds....
it wont go away cock...thats how much you spent on him.......
plus Richie mathers.....
Mathers I'm not too bothered about, we need competion at full back if he isnt good enough to play we wont play him, if he is great ...
no Wire fan is saying Mathers is superb but no wire fan is saying
"ooooo look weve done a straight swap gleeson for mathers......"
I'm happy with the deal, a couple more to get rid and we'll go fine'"
Your now without any quality centres at the club.
Your f--ked
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Quote Gleeson said: "It is like coming home and my family are really buzzing. It is like a dream come true.
"It is all a bit surreal. I cannot believe it yet and I've still got to pinch myself."
"I grew up going to Central Park watching Wigan games but I never got the opportunity to play for them before.
"Now it's my dream to finish my career here and win something at this club. I am sure that will happen." '"
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Quote Gleeson said: "It is like coming home and my family are really buzzing. It is like a dream come true.
"It is all a bit surreal. I cannot believe it yet and I've still got to pinch myself."
"I grew up going to Central Park watching Wigan games but I never got the opportunity to play for them before.
"Now it's my dream to finish my career here and win something at this club. I am sure that will happen." '"
Good stuff.
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"but you lot aren't mentioning the one hundred thousand pounds....
it wont go away cock...thats how much you spent on him.......
plus Richie mathers.....
Mathers I'm not too bothered about, we need competion at full back if he isnt good enough to play we wont play him, if he is great ...
no Wire fan is saying Mathers is superb but no wire fan is saying
"ooooo look weve done a straight swap gleeson for mathers......"
I'm happy with the deal, a couple more to get rid and we'll go fine'"
That is what I keep thinking. The Mathers thing is a bit irrelevant.
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| But remember - it's all an act
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| Quote ="Glynola"I assume you mean Ryles and Carvell?
Carvell was a biggish fee for a man who hadn't been playing much rugby over the last two years
And Ryles is now an expensive drain on Cat's SC.'"
And of course we all knew that would be the case. Just about everyone on here wanted us to move for Ryles and plenty of people were unhappy at the seeming reluctance to pay a fee for Carvell. And if course if IL is prepared to spend transfer fees there is/was nothing to stop enquiries being made about anyone not just those players.
We have ourselves moved for far more risky signings such as Mathers, Pryce and Smith.
It is good news IL has finally banished the moths from his wallet but I still think he should have done so sooner and on a top class prop.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Wouldn't we have had to wait till the end of 2010 (Nearly 2 years) for us to get him for Nowt??
I thought his get out clause only applied to the NRL????'"
that was the extension he signed so your right you would have had to wait till 2010 but he signed the extension in 2007 ......
if he hadnt signed the extension i think his original deal was to expire in 2008 so he could have gone for free then.... but he did sign the contract and wasnt off like dust like the original poster seemed to imply
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"but you lot aren't mentioning the one hundred thousand pounds....
it wont go away cock...thats how much you spent on him.......
plus Richie mathers.....
Mathers I'm not too bothered about, we need competion at full back if he isnt good enough to play we wont play him, if he is great ...
no Wire fan is saying Mathers is superb but no wire fan is saying
"ooooo look weve done a straight swap gleeson for mathers......"
I'm happy with the deal, a couple more to get rid and we'll go fine'" I must say you have a quality backline, .
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| Quote ="cadoo"With this signing and no indication that anyone else is leaving yet, it does make you wonder how much Mathers was on and how much we really did have spare on the salary cap.
Gleeson must be on a six figure wage.'"
This is the part of the whole saga that puzzles me. How have we got him under the cap?
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"but you lot aren't mentioning the one hundred thousand pounds....
it wont go away cock...thats how much you spent on him.......
plus Richie mathers.....
Mathers I'm not too bothered about, we need competion at full back if he isnt good enough to play we wont play him, if he is great ...
no Wire fan is saying Mathers is superb but no wire fan is saying
"ooooo look weve done a straight swap gleeson for mathers......"
I'm happy with the deal, a couple more to get rid and we'll go fine'"
i'm happy giving Warrington 100K for Gleeson, are Warrington fans happy knowing they're going to be rebuilding for the next 2-3 years before they get a chance of winning something?
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| Quote ="cadoo"But remember - it's all an act
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has he not mentioned that you are a "Massive Club"
he should have read the script........
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| Quote ="jinkin jimmy"This is the part of the whole saga that puzzles me. How have we got him under the cap?
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how much was mathers on?
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| It seems like an excellent acquisition especially in exchange for a Richie Mathers. I do feel sorry for Richie as it has not worked out for him here. Lets just hope Martin can produce the kind of great form which we know he can do.
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| Quote ="NickNJ"i'm happy giving Warrington 100K for Gleeson, are Warrington fans happy knowing they're going to be rebuilding for the next 2-3 years before they get a chance of winning something?'"
Gleeson will add a few to the gate for Thursday IMO, so he will in effect have cost a fair bit less than £100K.
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| a slant on the Wire song for Gleeson
Martin Gleeson's magic, once wore a magic hat
But when he left for Wigan, he then became a t***
He wouldn't play for Wire, he claimed that they were sh**e
So then he signed for Wigan and became a cherry & white
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| Quote ="jinkin jimmy"This is the part of the whole saga that puzzles me. How have we got him under the cap?
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Puzzles me as well. Surely we did not pay Mathers a comparable wage to Gleeson?
Perhaps there are some players to be loaned out but such deals must be in place before a team is allowed to register a new player because Gleeson's wage is added to the cap right away and if we have not got the money freed up off the cap the RFL would not register him for us.
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| Quote ="jinkin jimmy"Gleeson will add a few to the gate for Thursday IMO, so he will in effect have cost a fair bit less than £100K.'"
If he can win Wigan a trophy in future years then it is a price worth paying.
If Warrington are happy selling all their best players then so be it.
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"has he not mentioned that you are a "Massive Club"
he should have read the script........'"
Doesn't have to
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| If he ever goes missing, just look in the bookies or the bar.
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