Very good player but for some reason I ve got a feeling were just minding him for the season un-till the storm have sorted there money but I hope we do manage keep him

he'll deffo go back to the storm one day itll be whether he fancies a second year in the superleague that'll stop him goin back to storm end of the season. I wouldnt expect to see him here any longer than 2 years. He's young enough to go back after 2 years and get back in origin and test contention.

Thats a big statement, for a player who has only played a handful of games. For mine

Barrett
Carmont
Richards
Fletcher
Dallas


were /are all pretty good signings and have proven themsleves over at least 1 full season. I expect Hoffman will prove to be ranked amongst those in time.

(ps I deliberately did not include the likes of Netwon, Smith (Craig), Lam etc who were perhaps a few years ago but not that long).

Would be a good bet for MOS, if only I could find the odds online

Barrett is by far best over seas signing in sl era and it's not even close

For the value of money carmont

Had he fullfilled his contract maybe.

Paat is the best overseas signing we have had in recent years IMO. Carmont, Fletcher, Dallas etc are all ahead of Barrett.

Care to explain why it's so crazy?

Paaaat is irish so dont class him

I genuinely don't get the love in surrounding Pat. He's a good kicker and he's consistent. I can't remember him taking a game by the scruff of the neck and winning it for us like Farrell, Sam, Barrett, Newton, Lam, Paul, Gregory....

Don't get me wrong, he's a good player but he's a winger. Probably one of the top ones in SL but a winger none the less and one that wouldn't get a game in Origin.

Stand back . . . . . .

His nerve in the bradford playoff game taking them kicks from touch was the best i've ever seen

I think people forget aswell barrett did loads of work with sam when he was here and it would have had a massive role to play in how sam plays

I'll just edit anyones posts that disagree with me.

Man of steel all the way if it wasnt for the corrupt RFL voting.

Give over

I totally agree with Pemps and everything he says... ever.

In fact I'm fiddling withm myself just thinking about him.

David Furner...?

I was having the same conversation in the pub on Saturday afternoon - for me Barrett was amazing in NRL and when he came to us (maybe) my expectations were too high. His ball handling skills are class there'e no denying that but for me he had 2 games he showed and used that skill as he did in the NRL

1 was a home game (can't remember who to be honest) and he did an amazing dummy infront of the south
2 bradford 31-30; his vision and persistance topped with his skill in that game for me egged us on to that win

Apart from that I must say I wasn't over-awed

It seemed to be the games that he cut loose in. Another game was v Catalan in the semi at Warrington. The game had gone away from us but he seemed to throw out the game plan and take the game as he wanted to play it. I wish we'd have had him under Maguire rather than Nobby.

The thing with Trent is that he was in a poor team, and coached poorly. How good would he have been coached under MaGuire?

fair point

I just think he was here for the paycheck and think he had more to give but couldnt be backsided!!!!

How do you take a game by the scruff of the neck and win it for your team player on the wing? I'm not sure there is much more Pat can do, he does everything expected of him in his position and more....

The playmakers are the ones who win the games, you named loads of them, Pat is a winger not a halfback or a LF.

Pat is the best winger in the league and on his form from last season I cannot see why he wouldn't get a game at Origin level. He is one of the best finishers in the game, he is quick, strong and he can read the game.

I can see your point though, he doesn't do as much as the players mentioned but he can't because he is a winger.

Exactly my point. Why do people cream themselves over a winger? He's not Offiah or Robinson. In fact I'd put Dallas and Carney in front of him.

Furner came to superleague 4 years after he last played for Australia and the circumstances of Hoffman's arrival are completely different to those of when Furner arrived. IMO Hoffman will be a Melbourne Storm player again and is simply at Wigan while they sort the money out. Theres a reason Lima and Finch got longer contract and the best player out the 3, Hoffman, was given a year with the second year being optional to him. Comparing Hoffman and Furner's deals are completely stupid as far as Im concerned.