Where's rogues' ''I told you so!'' comments about bailey?



Call it bagging/getting on his back all you want. Fact is, he was one major differences between winning and losing tonight.

Bailey was poor last night, and was done for pace. However, who was supposed to be defending on his inside?

He was left stranded a few times. I wonder if it was Mossop who had that job, from the comments made after last week when the same thing happened.

I thought Yere gave Gleeson nightmares before he was switched to wing aswell tbh although possibly not as bad as the ones he gave to Bailey.

I agree we need Gleeson back and that he's been a consistant preformer. He's been solid as a rock since he came to the club but I thought last week he dropped a little short of that. It's doesn't take anything away from the fact that he's a miss though and that we simply can't play Bailey at centre.

I thought he did o.k. but didn't get much decent ball. My concern and always has been is his positional play.

When we broke up the right hand side in the second half (when Joel passed the ball to Quins) Ainscough was some twenty metres behind play, Joel had no passing option on his outside. That doesn't excuse Joel, he should've held on just as Stu Fielden also should have a little earlier.

Mixed bag from Ainscough tbh.

I'm pretty pleased to see he hasn't been bagged for the defeat on here though. I expected to come on here last night and read that the whole defeat was basically the lads fault. I'd have loved to have seen him outside Gleeson last night and hopefully that will be the case next week(if Goulding isn't fit).

We really did miss gleeson last night I thought. Thought Ainy was pretty poor to be honest, a couple of defensive errors led to 2 quins tries and I expected alot better from him considering it was his first game back from injury. Thought all of the backs bar phelps where pretty average last night, phelpsy looked alot better than he has done in previous weeks as I think he has now got his fitness back.

Excellent game from a certain Liam Farrell, head and shoulders above any of our players last night and you would not think it was only his second super league game, I was majorly impressed with Liam, we have a star on our hands. Thought Jonny Walker didn't let anyone down as well, as expected he got stuck in, took some good ball and was involved in plenty of tackles. Feka and Riddell also had very good games I thought.

Looking ahead to next week I would drop mossop because I thought he was pretty poor and try so hard to get Lockers back at loose, although he was his usual busy self throughout the game.

Id go with...

1. Phelps
2. Goulding/ Marsh
3. Gleeson
4. Carmont
5. Richards
6. Sam Tomkins
7. Leuluai/Deacon
8. Fielden
9. Riddell
10. Coley
11. Farrell
12. Joel Tomkins
13. O'Loughlin

14. Feka
15. O'Carroll
16. McIllorum
17. Walker

Last night proved O'Loughlin/Sam wont work. We either need to give Phelps a go at 6, and go with 2 kids on the wings, or we need one of Tommy/Deacon back desperately.

The injuries are a problem, but with some composure last night we would have won.

Ainscough was at fault for the first try, because he seems incapable of jumping. Apart from that he was okay, didnt do anything good or bad tbh.

He did enough to stop Sharp from scoring. That was Bailey's fault more than Ainscough's. The palm back to centre tactic will always work when the centre isn't covered.

Lockers was terrible at 6 wasn't he. The amount of times he went away from his usual game of shipping the ball wide instead choosing to keep on taking the line on wasn't funny! He seemed to have it in his head that he had to play as a natural 6 that will keep on testing the line when it simply isn't his game.

Hopefully Leuluai and/or Deacon will be back next week but if not we can't play Locker there again. I'd be tempted to throw Howarth in at 6 if those guys aren't back.

Ainscough didnt move.



He isn't a 6. We need to try something else there next week. Phelps would be the choice for me. Ainscough & Goulding/Marsh on wings, Richards @ 1 with Gleeson and Carmont in the centres.

We missed Bailey's defence in centre field.

Lockers should play 6 again tbh. He's a fabulous loose forward and we missed him in that position last night.

I'd agree with your options if Gleeson is back.

Really?

I'm losing my mind on the back of that defeat last night!

*Shouldn't Shouldn't Shouldn't*

Never a 6.

Cant blame one player for that loss
win as a team lose as a team

that result came from a few missed tackles out wide, a few missed tackles down the middle, and a lack of completion in the second half.

Correct

Add to that a few poor decisions by the players with ball in hand, particularly in the second half.

It was our 3rd arrogant preformence on the trot with ball in hand. We didn't respect possession again and looked like we thought we should score off every single play.

The 3 offloads in the 2nd half by Fielden, Phelps and then Joel were appalling and as a team we've been coming up with silly play like that since the Salford game.

We need to get back to the basics of respecting the ball, being aggressive in defence and taking our opportunities on the back of that pretty sharpish.

Suprised it didn't work out with O'Loughlin at stand-off. He has the best passing game in Super League apparently.

Another Warrington fan who has been hidden away for most of the season

He has a very good passing game. Unfortunately from 6 he decided he needed to take the line on down centre field which isn't his game at all as he hardly has blistering speed off the mark or a devastating step. Hope that makes it clearer for the hard of understanding.

Bailey shouldn't play in the centres again for Wigan.

That may sound harsh but Gleeson wouldn't have been all at sea like Bailey was tonight.

You can't blame one person for a loss but he's was a big factor in them scorring the majority of their tries imo.

Would have rather played Joel in Gleesons place.

If we had Roberts at full back for Phelps and Gleeson for Bailey last night theres no way we would of lost imo. Thats where Quins got their tries from imo. They exploited them weaknesses perfectly time and time again. MM found out a bit about some of the players last night at least.

I don't see how Phelps can be dragged into this?

TBF if Roberts was here I’d have put Phelps to 6 but other than that I don’t think he was that bad last night. He wasn’t superb but then again none of our lads were.

Gleeson was the biggest loss last night as he’s a marked improvement on Bailey at centre. He showed that last season when he came in and tightened that problem side up.

How long until Hansen is back? Im guessing another 5-6 weeks if everything goes to plan, hopefully him and Amos will get a gametime before the Saints game in June

Just looking at the fixtures We have a very tough run at the end of the season, if we can build up some form into July/August we should be Top 2 and have a good chance in the CC

Last 6 Games:

Warrington at home
Hull away
Leeds Away
Hudds Home
KR Away
Bradford Home

With those being our last games of the season you'd fully expect us to be in some serious form by then.

As a bench mark we need to win the last three. Hudds at home is a must as they will be close to us in the league and possible playoff opponents. KR away again will be difficult but at that stage of the season we should be looking at our form being good enough to beat them. Finally Bradford at home is payback time and we need to end the season on a real high with a big win.

Hopefully we will loose to Leeds away and then not lose again for the rest of the season much in the same way Leeds did last season after losing to us at the big one.