Flanagan would have been the better option, either to come on as hooker, leaving Tommy at #7, or coming on at #6 instead of Pryce. he's played both positions pretty well (better at #6) in the reserves.

At the moment we're an unhappy bunch of fans and certain players are feeling the wrath of being made scapegoats of. I personally found the abuse directed at certain players to be completely unwarranted.

Spot on

Completely agree, some of the players look devoid of confidence because certain sections of the fans are moaning and groaning as soon as they touch the ball - its as if certain fans are wanting them to fail at times to justify their opinions.

It happened with Tim Smith aswell. Ironic cheering whenever he made a tackle. Pathetic really.

Why do we have to keep putting these blokes down. He's played a handfull of first team games in the last 4 years therfore will take time. Give him a decent run in the team in his position then judge. If we keep putting him down he'll go elsewhere and be a very good player for someone else who's fans back their players. Booing him is shocking, we are SUPPORTers lets try supporting the team for a change.

Noble would be better playing away from home.
The fans support the team better and the team play better when away.
Next two away games are Bradford & Saints then Wire to follow.
I would leave him out until we go to Cas, the following week Hull FC at home then Hudds away.
Pryce came on when Tommy was binned. They had practiced with him playing at 6 yet when he stood wide out Sam was calling him in. I couldn't understand this.
Either Thaler was saying that we should pack down with six although the rules say only five are needed we a man down. Or Sam & Karl got confused.
Stood at 6 Pryce would have faced Fakir who was out of their pack. Stood further out Karl was facing Bosc. IMO he should have stayed where he was and Sam should have put the long pass out.
Fakir would never intercept it and Pryce would have had a clear run at Bosc. Also he got belted and had an eye problem.
Next week Gleeson will likely be back and Goulding will take Pryce's place on the bench.
Agree he could go on loan, we should not even consider releasing him.

- Could not believe it when he was doing the set moves at 6 in the warm up.

He was absoloutly terrible on the few occasions he got the ball but the Wigan fans who jeered him were out of order.

Should have played Flannagan at least we would have got half an hours graft out of him.

One problem he looks to have is a lack of agility, he never appears to try a step to put his defender off balance. With his obvious size he should be able to brush defenders off with ease if he did this.

Looks like Vialeaki (?) mk 2 to me

The lad is an embarrassment to our conditioning team.

I respect that he had a bad injury but we have had at least 6 mths to get this kid looking something like an athlete and his fitness looks as far away now as he did in the pre season friendlies.

Something that hasnt been mentioned enough.

It's a major problem at Wigan and the worst part is that it's easily solved by IL tho but it’s not happened as of yet.

Most of the players in Feka, Riddell, Prescott, Mcilorum, Pryce and Fielden could or should be either bulked up or conditioned better imo and we’d see a big improvement in their game

Does anybody think it is a coincidence that Goulding returns from a spell with another club and a qualified conditioning coach and he looks physically much sharper and an extra yard of pace? I don't.

Let's hope he goes with Noble at the end of the season. If not before. He's useless end of chat!!

No, he did look better tbf.

You can pick players out who clearly are not either receiving the correct advice or not applying it in training, either way it is still bad coaching.

I have said for sometime i think Nobles biggest downfall may well be down to him surrounding himself with sub standard coaches who are his mates, the coaches that remain in the game for the longest time always seem to surround themselves with quality people regardless of if they know them or not.

I do agree we shouldnt boo our own players wen they get the ball because at the end of the day he is a wigan player but we know he hasnt showed anything yet in a wigan shirt but his time will come just give the lad some time.

=redNo Need for this comment - Pemps

Change the bloody record.



And yes I WILL update my sig as you seem incapable of responding to my "gesture of goodwill".

What?

Have you finally lost the plot? What on earth are you talking about. Once again i am lost by your fantastic intellect, i take it you do not agree fair enough, any need for the keyboard warrior stuff? Sadly its the same old return to form from you.

"Gesture of goodwill" what on earth are you on about now?

I assume the "change the record" request was irony at its finest coming from you as well! I think that is one of the only posts you have ever made that has not mentioned the "communist cap". For someone with such a high opinion of themselves you don't half make some posts that make you look daft.

Well I removed one of my many saved quotes by you from my sig, yet you insist on including my drunken quote in your sig.

Not that I give a monkeys, but it does show an unwillingness to forget the personal attacks and concentrate on the rugby.


Personally I think this forum has had enough personal abuse and needs to refocus on what we are all here for in the first place, however, if you insist on sniping, I will, ofc (another "text speek" for you) be happy to react.


Btw I find it hilarious that it took Phuzzy 20 mins (doubtless after a lot of internet searching) to pick up on my drunken grammar.

Even more funny was the fact that YOU didn't pick up on it at all (as if that was a surprise).

Even funnier than that is the fact that you put it in your sig!!!! It doesn't get better than this.


On second thoughts, carry on!

I will drop another clanger in at some point. I will post it in MY sig when you don't pick up on it.


It's hilarious.

Leave it jonh.....he's had half a shandy and mixed it with tizer!

Your right so why then when John posted about Goulding conditioning at Salford did you just decided to call him a muppet from out of the blue for no reason what so ever?

If you’re so bothered about personnel insults why come out with one for no reason?

It was a perfectly good post by John imo

Im with you pal........some people on here are just blinkered and fail to note the obvious

Are you really that blind to your own traits? You start with the personal abuse then claim you wish to see a refocusing.



Why attempt somehow to use a sig as a bargaining tool? Mate i did not put that much thought into it, i just found it very amusing given the personal abuse aimed at me (again from you) that lead to your "drunken error"

Maybe if you were not so intent on dishing out the abuse then posting the hypocritical tripe you do some may take you more seriously, maybe nearly as seriously as you take yourself.

I assume the change the record dig was not ironic given you have ignored it, again i find this stunning given your continual ranting on the communist cap, but its something i and everyone on here seems to expect from you BK.

You cannot go round playing the game then decide to call it quits because you have been made to look daft.

Now as you are the one claiming you wish for an end to the personal abuse, even though it seems to be your hiding place, what angered you so much about my initial post and why do you disagree. Are you happy with the conditioning of the players at the club? If so why/why not. Its called reasonable valid debate not childish slating and name calling after a sniff of the barman's apron.