The test will have been done but the results take time to come through. About a week is what I have seen posted elsewhere.

Dave

What, so Hock's life is fair game for you, but yours isn't for me?

I don't think so.

Thanks Dave appreciate that.

Far do's if that's how ya see it then far enough! I've not brought the game we all love further into disripute though!

The club stood by Jon Clarke in the sense they didn't cut him off dead but then when he got back into the game he was IIRC helped to find another club.

Wouldn't be surprised to see the same happen again especially if the back row forwards we have in two years are playing well.

I am sure the club have no wish to do anything that would make Hock's situation any worse than it is but at the same time they have to consider what will be best for the team two years down the track.

Provided he looks after himself I am sure other clubs would come in for him but if Wigan decided to let him go I would not question that decision.

I don't think the club should say now that he has a job back in the side after his ban is up but should say its a possibility and dependant on a lot of things such as how Hock behaves in the next two years, how he look after himself and what the requirements of the side are.

Any sniff

of him reverting to the bad behaviour often rumoured on various forums and they should not re-sign him. If he goes elsewhere as a result then it ought to be good luck but no thanks.

Dave

You don't know anything about his personal life or family circs though, do you, which could well be extenuating factors.

Perhaps we ought to just leave it to the RFL to pass judgement.

Thats pretty much what i'm getting at dave. The guy has made a mistake and been caught red handed so should take his punishment but i wouldn't want us to cut all ties at the moment because of what he has done as i would hope we could help him to get himself sorted out and get his career back on track when the time comes. Speaking from a purely selfish point of view, i don't really want such a talented guy to wander away and start playing for some other club. Of course all of this would depend on what Hock does in his time off and what we are looking like as a team when he is available again.

Fair comment. But Wigan Leeds andy saying there would be no sl games this weekend if all players were tested in the moring is a judgement I could not agree with!!

Its an opinion like most of the stuff on here. But I would actually agree with it. I think that there are many from each club that could be named and shamed. There might even be someone named from a lower division club this week.....

Thats not the issue is it? Named and shamed is one thing, testing posative in the morning is another!! I know A few people who take or have taken drugs but they would not test posative in the morning!! Are we to think sl players are out on a mid week night bangin the gear!! So much so that clubs wouldn't be able to field teams? I just don't think that rings true!! But as in life I'm sure there are some players who do and some who don't! But not how some people are insinuating

sorry mate mis understood you. I agree most players wait till after the game to use their illicit substances (in my opinion

Most players are at least professional before the game.

Well if coke stays in your system for 72 hours that means Hock was doing exactly that!

the players get a day off on wednesday so maybe some might treat is as their saturday night on tue or wed

Granted thats true, however he was tested on friday, so could have had is 'Saturday' on a Saturday!

yes unless he is addicted

that was just a joke before i get any warnings!!!

Do you want to show everyone where I said that.

Good luck finding something that doesn't exist by the way.

Sorry it wasn't you!!

My bad!!

They should take a sample from there hair as that shows up a month after taking.

Senior should be safe then.

I thought the results of his 'B' sample where due on 30th June? If this is the case why has his punishment not been publicised or the results issued?

The second test was on 30th June, the results available about a week later. Do keep up this has been mentioned numerous times already.

Dave

My understanding is that both samples are taken at the same time? One is tested and the other sample stored. If the test is positive or inconclusive on the first sample the second sample is then tested? The results of the second sample where then due on the 30th June.

It would not make sense to take a sample on the 5th June, it then comes back positive and you have your second sample 25 days later, if this is the case then I think you can virtually guarentee that the second sample will be negative.

What a silly sausage!

This is theUK Sports drugs policy:

When called for a drugs test the athlete is entitled to have a representative (such as their coach or team doctor) present to verify that the testing occurred in accordance to guidelines. A sample is provided (in view of an official of the same gender) and split into two bottles and sealed by the athlete. A code number will be attached to the bottle and recorded on the relevant paperwork to ensure the correct result is given to the athlete whilst retaining their anonymity.

Following the sampling procedure the athlete must complete a medical declaration which states all medicines, drugs and substances taken over the last week. It is important that the athlete records everything, from over-the-counter medicines, to supplements and prescribed drugs. If any of these substances are on the prohibited list the athlete must hold a Therapeutic Use Exemption (TUE). The competitor, representative and official all check the form before the official and athlete sign it and both parties are given a copy.

The samples are then sent to a registered laboratory (if there is not one on site) where sample A is tested using gas chromatography (which uses separation techniques to divide the contents of the sample) and mass spectrometry (which provides the exact molecular specification of the compounds). If a positive result is found with sample A, the athlete is notified before sample B is also tested. The athlete or their representative is entitled to be present at the unsealing and testing of the second sample. If this too is positive, the relevant sporting organisations are notified whose responsibility it is to decide what penalties or bans are to be imposed'.

Note the bit in bold. Before the second sample is tested the athlete is notified so this is only opened and tested after the notification. The official press release says Wigan were notified on 22nd June.

My understanind is that the 2nd sample was opened and tested on 30th June, results to follow.

Dave

Talk about telling people to keep up. All this info was in the post I made pages back giving the link to WADA testing info leaflet.