I think that rule must have been rescinded, otherwise at the moment there would be players getting banned most weeks.

I think he lived in Beech Hill for a spell and played for St Judes.

By turning his back I assume you mean nearly ending his career picking up a horrible injury in a GB shirt?

And what has England got to do with KC?

I said Coley was a thug before he came to Wigan and didn't like the idea of us signing him. He has been a lot better since coming to Wigan, but I still worry when he plays that he's going to let himself and the club down.

Hock, well... great rugby player spoiled by the same problem.

Cunningham has done a lot more than just the Stosic incident and is one of the worst thugs SL has seen. It's the fact that he's got away with SO much over the years that really riles me when people call him "King" or "Legend". The fact is, there's been better hookers at St Helens, not just in SL. Cunningham struggles to pass backwards from the play the ball, for Chrissakes!



If he'd played for Wigan, I'd have choked on my own vomit.



No, it's not sad, it's called "Research". Are you going to say every Rugby League reporter is sad when they do theirs? Do you look at the disciplinary news on the RFL website? You're sad if you do. The thing is, Saints fans argued and argued (and still do, despite all the evidence) that Cunningham didn't fracture Stosic's eye socket, so I found out for definite, from the Wakefield media department, that that particular page was wrong.

Now, to actually say something positive about Saints, I'll be glad when Potter's gone for the simple fact that you won't have a coach who insists on bringing back a future GB star too early after injury. Eastmond needs a rest, for God's sake give it to him before GB and/or SL loses out on this talent through repeated injury. There is a player I WOULD want at Wigan, and he's a million percent better than Cunningham ever was.

There's a surprise













Come on, if he's one of the worst thugs SL has seen, name his top5 thuggish acts. In fact, name any 5 thuggish acts from his career.

Less than one incident every three seasons - it should be easy to come up with some shockers.

that fat hooker that pies and proud who is talking about in my opinion is one of the best hookers iv seen for a while, and also he has been a v-good asset for st helens and even if i dont want the stains to win anything, there is no way we can turn round and call kieron in any shape way or form. look at wot ur lookin at.

typical another who dosent no talent,,,,, omg call themselves rugby fans,,,, smell the coffee.

Have I missed something? Or were you doing it as part of a Rugby League Report? The difference being someone who checks the disciplinary news is looking in general, not ringing a club to try and prove a point in an argument about a player you are clearly obsessed with? Did he run over you in the Junior sections, or ruin the 1st game you ever went to by scoring or something? It's clearly not healthy to be as obsessed with one person as you are with KC.

I hardly think he's going to be lost due to repeated Injury. If your so concerned maybe, he could be left out of the 4 Nations to have a rest? However, I dont think you will agree with this idea as it doesn't negatively affect Saints. As for better than Cunningham, I think its rather early to say. If he has half the influence and success that Kieron has had at Saints he'll do okay.

No response yet, I wouldn't have thought it would take so long to come up with a measly 5 incidents in 16 years for such a thuggish player.

complete myth.

1) he was Welsh, so never would have played for England
2) he made 14 appearances for GB in his career. Kris Radlinski only made 6 more yet is seen as some sort of international legend on here. 14 international appearances for a hooker compares pretty favourably with players of any generation and nationality.

He played in the infamous Sydney test whilst injured - the game where he was poisoned by the RFL and pretty much forced to play through injury. Then he suffered a potentially life changing injury playing for GB at Blackburn. After that injury it is a miracle that he ever played again, so there is no shame in retiring from international rugby after suffering like that.

Finally, he may have taken the money for "Team GB" - but I doubt it was in the contract he signed that the RFL could treat him as a guinea pig for any medical experiments that they wanted to. The RFL are lucky that he didnt take further action for gross misconduct and incompetence.

Get over it. You just cant stand the sight of Saints winning can you??? Moan, Moan, Moan oh and yes more Moaning its all you ever do! 99% of play the balls in Super League arent done correctly wheather its Saints, Wigan, Leeds, Castleford or Salford. They are all as bad as eachother for doing it.

Terrific post and 100% correct.

Well, obviously there's Stosicgate, there was his high tackle on Coley in the play-off last year, there was his unpunished late elbow to Sam Tomkins' head after the kick (I think that was the same match, isn't a late attack on the kicker supposed to be an instant sin bin?)...

Picking out 5 individual things over such a long career is difficult, especially remembering who they were all on.

What would probably be easier is watching him play this weekend and picking 5 thuggish acts out of that match. He's bound to make plenty more than that.

(Watch this now, just to scupper this, he'll go off injured in the first minute. I might only get 2 then.)

I am clearly NOT obsessed with Cunningham. What annoys me is how he's apparantly above the laws of the game. Radford throws a punch last weekend after provocation, gets a match ban (since overturned). Cunningham throws punches, causing injury, with NO provocation... doesn't even have to face the panel. It's a joke.



I hoped to see him in action in a GB shirt, combining with Sam. But yes, to be honest, I think he should fully recover now, leave it to next year even.



Don't talk wet. I've got the best interests of the game at heart. I'd much rather Eastmond, a young CLEAN talent, was available without injury no matter who he played for as his presence is of benefit to the game as a whole.



No, it's not too early to say at all. He IS better than Cunningham ever could be.

Sorry, been rather busy having a life and all. I do hope that's ok with you.

Yeah, ringing up SL clubs to check if Saints players have injured their players must take up a lot of time out of your "life"



Any more examples of KC thuggery yet? It's OK to admit you were wrong by the way.

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So much of a thug that Tomkins has conceded more penalties? But don't let stats get in the way of your anti KC hate, Fishsta

Doesn't KC play 40 minutes a match? Poor use of statistics to illustrate what's a pretty tedious argument anyway.

I heard he stepped on a worm in training last week and didn't apologise. The git!

So in SEVEN more appearances, Tomkins conceded TWO more penalties. And if Cunningham only plays 40 minutes a match, that means Sam's average of .66 of a penalty per match is a lot lower than Cunningham's 1.5 penalties per match!

Add on how much he gets away with... deary me.




Cripes, online before school now.

Like I said, there'll be plenty of examples this weekend.

So you come up with one incident in 16 years, for which no ban was given. What a thug.

What thuggish acts did he pull off in the televised game last weekend out of interest? I think I may have noticed him tread on someone's toe when he scored the winner, the cad.

I agree.

KC is by no means whiter than white, but i would never describe him as a thug.

He is now worse than any other SL player. It is a ruff old game after all and sometimes a bit of intimidation is the order of the day.

You must really hate us don't you.

Not Obsessed? Every Topic about him you are there, every argument you bring him up. Hell you even took time out of your day to ring another club to try and prove a point against him!

You don't have the best interests of the game at Heart, if you did you would acknowledge (Like many fair Wigan Fans have) That KC has been a fantastic player over the years.

Fielden threw punches against Huddersfield and wasn't banned, Joel Tomkins ran in against Leeds. I dont remember either of them being banned, Don't remember you complaining about that. Maybe that's because they are Wigan players, or more importantly not KC.

It is FAR too early to say Eastmond is better than Cunningham. Keiron has been at the top of the game for many, many years. If Eastmond manages to do half of what Keiron does then maybe you can say this. Although as they play in different positions comparison is almost pointless anyway.