Ah the penny has dropped, cheers

I disagree. The team that finishes 8th will not be there by accident. They will have played a standard of rugby that places them in that position. I think the system as it is now is sufficiently difficult enough to eliminate the 8th placed side (I doubt Catalans will get a result at Hudds). If we take Catalans as an example, should that side end up winning the championship as some fear, they would have to have beaten Huddersfield, Leeds and St Helens; none of which in front of their own fans. The way I see it, it gives the smaller clubs a chance at extending their season but they will not make any great waves. If they do (which I believe may happen once in a blue moon) they will have beaten teams of a calibur and be deserving of the title of champions.

In any case, this animosity towards the 8th placed team is objective. Had Wigan finished 8th, would we not want to get to OT and win as we would not have deserved to be there? (Although judging by the attitudes of the usual doom and gloom merchants on here, I suspect that wouldn't be far from the truth)

I have read the majority of this thread with utter disbelief.

The play-offs are the culmination of the season. Wigan should be delighted to be even in them the way they started the season off, and for a game, that is make or break to the season, then the ground should have been sold out last weekend. It was a pathetic display of support.

7pm on a Sunday I would say is a great time for a match.
What exactly does it clash with ???? Nothing I would say. There is absolutely nothing better to be doing on a Sunday evening at that time, and it will clash with very few people's working schedule (which for the biggest game of the season so far, if they didn't take off for it anyway I would be amazed).

People are using kids as an excuse. Well surely for kids of a resonable age, getting them home at 9.30pm as a one-off isn't any major issue. Even if it is, again for the biggest game of the season, then a babysitter would be found.

After reading this thread, I'm not expecting many to make the trip to Craven Park on Saturday, when in reality you should be able to sell your away allocation twice over.

clashed with one thing. the sky sports football schedule. end of. i'm sure it would have been a 3pm kick off if it wasn't on sky but obviously as all play off games are televised then there was no chance of that.

Indeed. If United had had their allotted amount of injury time, we would have played at 3pm. As Fergie is the timekeeper at OT, we had to be pushed back to 7pm to allow United to score

Is it so difficult to comprehend that for example in my case, my totally non rugby interested daughter had been promised by her father to spend some quality time with her. A promise that was made when I had no idea if Wigan would make the playoffs, and what date the match would be if we did. I'm sorry but there's no way i'm letting my daughter down for anything on this earth mate, and if you think people should then there's really nothing further to be said.

Also for those with young children, getting them back at 9.30 pm when they have school in the morning can actually be a big deal, as they sure as hell aren't going to goto sleep quickly after all the noise of a rugby match. It's also not magically easy for a lot of people to pull a babysitter out of thin air, even if I hadn't have promised my daughter, I could not have got a babysitter on Sunday anways.

Please let the judemental rubbish stop, or are you suggesting that you must either goto all the games home and away or none at all?

Yes everybody feels it was a poor crowd, but that's up to the RFL to look into the scheduling of the sport in general - it was clearly done with an eye to Sky rather than attendances at the matches.

Steve Ella's Beard:

Yes, it is hard for me to comprehend. The play-off dates were known weeks ago, so you knew it was possible for the Sunday slot to be filled with Wigan's do or die match, and there was guaranteed to be two nights of that weekend without a Wigan match, so plenty of opportunity for that quality time. I doubt whatever you did with your daughter (on a school night) was anything you couldn't have done any other night of that week, and you going to the rugby on that night wouldn't have mentally scarred her for life.

BBFL:

Maybe not from my own parental experience, but I can recall that my parents took myself and my brother to night football matches on schoolnights, without it causing us any harm. One night in particular I can recall was in January in the mid 90's, an FA Cup 3rd round replay at then Premiership champions Blackburn, which went to extra-time.
We wouldn't have got back to Hull till at least 12.30am, if not later. I would have been 14, and my brother 9 at the time, and he is still functioning perfectly well to this day following that.
Kids are far too molly coddled these days. They can't be up beyond 9-10pm for a one-off, what tosh.

And from this point the usefulness of your contribution was over....

It's a waste of time discussing it further if you can't see that making a promise to your daughter and fulfilling it (which is the important thing not the actual activity) is more important than a rugby match.

And what about the people who have a 5 year old or such?

To be honest you've got no right at all to question a parent's decision over how they bring up their child. I wouldn't dream to question those parents who did decide to keep their kids up, and likewise you shouldn't bloody question those parent's who didn't.

I've followed the club for 30 years through some really bad times and good, if you've got a problem with me missing a play off match over my daughter, then quite frankly you can get stuffed.

End of discussion.

Excellent contribution. If you're trying to prove that your a much better fan than the regular 3,000 that didn't turn up, then well done. Give yourself a badge.

I went to the game but my 6 year old son didn't. He was asleep before I left the house. We had a late night on the Saturday and he had a busy day on Sunday. I perhaps should have woken him up and had him crying during the match and absolutely useless at school the next day. Or maybe I should have canceled all the fun things he did on Saturday and Sunday just so he'd be awake and ready for the match on Sunday night.

Not being funny mate but making your daughter book one evening of quality time with her dad weeks, if not months, in advance isn't going to win you dad of the year so I wouldn't worry about the effects of cancelling it. I'm sure you could squeeze an hour or two in for your daughter this side of Christmas if you have to, just avoid the 10th October just in case.

i assume you arnt a parent then?
if you are you are an irrisponsible one imo, and so were your parents.

9 yr old still out at 12-30am ...jesus wept...and school the day after?
he may well be functioning today, but have you any idea how much that might have knocked him back.??

one off 10pms are ok............if its on a saturday night...wedding for example.

sorry mate...you have no idae about parenting at all

Bloody hell, i knew for definite that we were playing Castleford only after we got beat by Hudds on the 13th (so what, 9 days in advance) after i'd already made plans.

Oh and I didn't make her do anything, she asked me to do something on that particular sunday, and to be honest, i'd have spent the time with her fecking rugby match or not, final or not.

I'm sorry but I don't cancel anything with my daughter when I have control over the situation, nice that you just also assume she's around every single day of every week.

This is utter BS having to try and defend myself.

I'd give my life for my lass, would you do the same for Wigan RL?

Have you missed a game in your lifetime?

Take no notice mate !

When some folk have kids of their own, they will prioritise.

This thread has seriously lost the plot.

Agreed

That's actually 7 days before BTW & Not 9!

PS

Your perfectly spot on in what you said!

I agree with DaveO!!

BRING BACK THE TOP 5

We wouldn't have even made the play-offs if it was top 5.

Sh*t happens!

Maybe we would have tried at Huddersfield or maybe in one of the previous games we should have won (e.g. Celtic away).

You behave yourself over there in Ayia Napa

Wish I was there mate! Forgot to change it when I got back to Blighty

orrell lad why is your avatar that transvestite who plays football