I find it suspicious the way these rumours only seem to surface on occasions when we lose.

It's like we're looking for a reason that's not related to our on-field quality (which on this occasion was lacking).

I will admit that these rumours, and there's now been more than one, are starting to tarnish Madge's reputation a little. It perhaps wouldn't be a bad thing if he made a statement of some sort.

It's a bit underhand though isn't it? If TL leaves to go to Australia then good luck to him, but I'd hope our current coach wasn't spending his time here trying to persuade our current players to go to Australia, and for what it's worth I don't think he would.

If Maguire/Souths want Leuluai, then Souths have plenty of officials who can have a chat to Tommy's agent.

No, not at all. And I said that in the above post providing it's done in the off season.

It's nothing to do with us losing at the weekend either. I like Madge as a coach and as person but wouldn't want him in charge if he's got his eye on next year in any way, shape or form. Leave that to Russell Crowe and Souths. Michael Maguire isn't employed by Souths.

Pat was out of contract and had subsequently signed a new deal and rumours from down under have suggested both Finch and Tommy have expressed an interest in returning to the NRL, so it makes sense that Madge would have a word with them. FWIW from what I have read it looks like Tommy will at least see out his current contract. It's not like hes been tapping up all our players hes probably just spoken with the ones who he thought might be available, which is fair enough imo. Listening to Madge's interviews he still seems to be 100% focussed on the job in hand over here.

So we denied him a release. I wonder whether we may have allowed Tommy to begin talks with other clubs earlier than usual because he's expressed a wish to leave. To almost compensate for the fact that Wigan won't let him leave early. At least then he'll be able to negotiate the best deal possible for himself, over the next 18 months.

I can't honestly say I'll won't be disappointed if Tommy does leave. Far to hot and cold for me, with no true position nailed down.

Same here

According to some journo on Twitter, Lulu has spoken to the Press Association about asking Wigan if he could leave to join Souths.

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Both times this has been mentioned in the press Tommy has come out and made a comment. He's a cracking player and it's nice to see him commited to the cause.

Silence is deafening in situations like this so I'm glad he's spoke out again.

Ta. Good stuff. Not the spin the tweet would lead you to.

At the forum IL said Tommy has re-signed for the option year of his current deal. Can't remember the exact words but I'm pretty sure it was then hinted that a new deal was being suggested beyond his current contract.

This is simply not true. Plenty of people, including top CEO's state their intention to move on, and they see out their notice period.

Where an individual is going to a competitor and has access to sensitive information it is common to ask them to leave immediately.

Given the club through TL have now denied the media report, I do not see the point of discussing it.

Heard big rumours that Griffin is days away from signing. And that King is not too far away.

Hope so on both.

Good quality options to replace Gleeson and Coley who I'd hope would be who were looking at replacing. I'd expect Hock to take Hoffmans place and then we just need to see what Carmont and Deacon decide to do.

Initially i was rather nonplussed about the King rumors, but lately the thought of Pat, King and Hock rampaging down our left has me intrigued.

Griffin will do a job and tbh thats all we really need from him. He has been in very good form recently and is a bit of a poop house to boot.

Decent signings that could prove to be good business.

I genuinely don't see the need for Griffin. Decent player and all, but we've got 4 perfectly good props in the team at the minute. Swap in Coley for Fielden next year, arguably stronger. Behind them you've then got O'Carroll (who's back in training I think) and Dom Crosby not far behind with a couple of the 2nd rowers having the ability to step up.

Matt King, yes. I'd be very happy with signing him, however I can't see it happening.

Griffin doesnt excite me..King would be a great signing

Had a blinder against Knights today, defo a top prospect, ideal for what we need.

I wasnt too keen on these signings when I first heard the rumours but thinking about it now they seem very clever to me. When was the last time we signed already proven super league players from rival clubs? Hopefully we are looking at a halfback from somewhere to partner up with Finch then thats us sorted for me next year:

Out : In

Coley - Griffin
Gleeson - King
Hoffman - Hock
Roberts - Halfback?


Carmont + 1 year



1. Sam
2. Charnley
3. King
4. Carmont
5. Richards
6. Finch
7. Mellor/New Halfback
8. Fielden
9. Leuluai
10. Mossop
11. Hock
12. Joel
13. O'Loughlin

14. Lima
15. McIlorum
16. Farrell
17. Griffin

Hansen, Goulding, Prescott, Tuson, Marsh, Davies, Crosby, Logan, Hughes all still to fit in...

Really rate Griffin, one tough SOB.

Although Griffin and King are not the two best players around, I would be very satisfied if we signed them. King used to be world class and he is getting back to old form. Coley was no better than Griffin when we first signed him but our coaching helped Coley become a top class player.

id rather us go for lynch that griffin,
i hate king - mainly cos he plays for warrington and he is awsome!
he should be a great signing for wigan, what a replacement for carmont
id leave joel in the other

Lynch is contracted until 2012.

And is 32 this year.
Griffin will be 30 this year.

I'd take Griffin on a two year deal.