Exactly. In the cold light of day, when you compare to some of the incidents seen in the other code of a prolonged attack to the eyes, it's almost incomparable. He should get a ban for it don't get me wrong but we've got another case of lynching going on that doesn't do anyone any favours.

He was only play-gouging, nothing to see here.

no.

Just to confirm what we thought.

no am for deckchairs comments

hock is a disgrace to rl. he should never have set foot on a playing after he got banned for sniffing coke. What a joke and he makes a joke out of wigan along with afew other of your players.Never happy unless you are cheating your way to victory.A disgrage to any sport but thats the wigan way.

just to confirm your a sore loser.get a grip big man

Good grief! Did we steal your sweets or something??

All this vile bile once again spilling our from our friendsfrom t'other side of Golbourne. Yet these will be the same people that idolised this 'fine' gentleman...

Les Boyd

Rugby league does not attract shy, retiring types. It has been played by many unpredictable wildmen who intimidated through random acts of violence, and many more who inspired fear through size, speed and legitimate aggression. Manly’s Les Boyd did both. By all accounts a perfect gentleman off the field, he secured his place in league infamy during game one of the 1983 state-of-origin series, when he used his elbow to smash the jaw of Queensland prop Darryl Brohman. Three matches after returning from the resulting 12- month suspension, [size=200he was banned for 15 months for eye-gouging Canterbury hooker Billy Johnston.[/size Persona non grata in Australia, Boyd finished his career with Warrington in England, where he developed a cult following for his rare combination of extreme skill, unblinking courage and advanced thuggery.

FWIW I won't have any problem in not seeing Hock until next season, that was uncalled for and deserves punishing.

You sir are a very very bitter person

Was disgusted. Harrison punched back which is why hock punched but he has no excuse for that gouge! He won't play again this year even if Wigan make the final if the rfl are as consistent as usual. (like the biting guy) I even think McGuire or Bailey would be banned for a couple games for that.

Not at all best team by some considerable distance, won by margin that reflected their superiority. As other have highlighted as well, it wasn't the best analogy to use, for obvious reasons. But at least we know certain people are cut from the same cloth and have zero class (or brains).

nothing to do with him being a Wigan player - if it was any Saints player I would feel the same

a player like Hock brings the club into disrepute,not only the game in general

I don't think he should have a lifetime ban,just the punishment usually meted out for this kind of offence

problem is,the RFL are notorious for NOT doing the right thing,not to mention inconsistency....

Its funny how opposition fans are as much outraged about Hocks gauging as they were about Sams Vs.

Puts things into perspective really, what Sam did hurt nobody and was nothing.

I hate using smilies but this one surely fits the above comment.

hock cheat scumbag what ever you want to call him.open your eyes wigan fans he is dragging the good name of wigan rugby league down with his silly liitle acts.Along with your golden boy sam.

don't speak for ALL opposition fans mate

I don't have any problem with Sams' gesture - that's just immaturity,he will get over it - with Hock it's in his Psyche to sometimes show his nasty side - it's a pity cos' it's dragging down the clubs' reputation as Bobby D said

So the good name of Wigan Rugby or never happy unless we are cheating?

I think you'll find that Sams V was seen by the largest tv audience this sport will get this season..on its biggest stage.. infront of many families..thats why it was such big news.If it had been today on sky then only actual RL fans who watched the game would be complaining (as we are still a minority sport) that is why it got full scale media coverage last week. People have said it just one of those things and it happens in football BUT we all support a totally different sport where you CAN stand next to opposition fans without the fear of fighting,where after being tackled players dont roll over 4/5 times playacting AND MOST IMPORTANTLY where 13-18 stone men take notice and directions from a 10/11 stone (weakling) called a ref and obey him with..YES SIR>>NO SIR.. whereas in football 9-11 stone weaklings slag the ref off..

Somehow, it seems that fans of other clubs see Madge as a disgrace. Now could this be that in the space of a year he managed to transform a top 4 club into a Championship side? In the second year took the same club to Challenge Cup Victory.

Madge has a hard work ethic, the Wigan side no longer go to play and prance around the field like a bunch of jokers, they get up in the morning and go to work. Maybe they're not donning suits or picking up hammers and screw drivers, but they are going to work. This could not be said of the Wigan of a few years ago. Madge expects his team to put in 100% into every game, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. The third man in is an effective tackle that is not intended to, nor does it, cause injury to other players if done properly, and if everything goes according to plan. BUT, on occasion targetted players move into a different position, twist or dip at the last second and, once committed, there is nothing that the tackler can do about that. (i'm guessing you're still being y about Fat Dave's Knee Sprain).

Does Madge condone or defend Sam sticking two's up to the Leeds fans? Probably not. He can probably see why he did it, but wouldn't spur him on with a "well in Sammy, give it to the yorkshire dirtbags".

Does or Will Madge condone or defend Gaz Hock's indiscrimination today? I strongly doubt it.

If you look at recent Disciplinary for Harrison Hansen [urlhttp://therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?3129[/url, you'll see this:

I saw plenty of dodgy tackles from Wire today that could've caused potential injury to Wigan players, and that is not the first instance. So should Tony Smith sod off back to Oz too? While we're at it, let's get rid of Mick Potter, cos Bradford are a dirty side. How about getting rid of Royce Simmons too, because Saints have some questionable tactics this season.

As for Waney "influencing the ref", were you joining in Wiggy's Jizz Fest as well? Waney noticed the penalty count and went to ask Silverwood "We're struggling on that one, where can we improve to reduce the penalty count", for you to suggest that Waney somehow went to rough talk or pay off Silverwood is slanderous!

About time you wound your neck in and thought about getting your own house in order before critisising others. Hock was out of order, Wigan Fans and Club will all say the same, simple as.

Up until I saw your postings I was happy to admit defeat, as Wigan didnt bring it to the park today, but from that, Warrington kicking out in tackles, elbows in etc etc, all not picked up by the ref. Wigan were robbed, of tickets, and of decisions.

Now go play with yer tonka toys, adults are talking.

Not at all surprised to see the faux-humility that Hock showed to weasel his way back into the game well and truly out the window; he's now back to the same brand of vicious thuggery he was known for prior to his drugs ban. This was one of the worst assaults on a fellow professional I've seen so far this season - the disciplinary *should* throw the book at him.

Thought Wigan played the game in a generally poor spirit today - Lima's hair-pulling, Tomkins S kicking Clarke in the face as he scored a try, Tomkins J too busy squaring up to someone to defend a try, Tomkins S giving the ref the hairdryer treatment (again) etc etc.

I think your side are coached with a win at all costs mentality and as a neutral, it's very ugly to watch - it's a shame really, given the undoubted talent of some of your players. Hopefully, Maguire will take it back to Aus with him and you'll be a bit more of a sportsmanlike outfit to watch. As it stands, for the neutral, Warrington are a better prospect in terms of playing the game in the correct spirit.

It never happened , Wane didn't speak to the Ref at Half time

Oh right, well I'm all for us changing the style of play that has won us 3 trophies just so Wakefield fans are happy, god forbid they prefer Warrington.

I do not think he intentionally put his hand in the position to attack the eyes, but once his hand ended up there he certainly made a grab at the eyes, very sill boy. Will pick up a couple of games at least which from out point of view is a shame as he is showing excellent potential in the Prop role. Will be a cracking replacement long term for Coley I think.

IF he can sort out his silly behavior, i've seen nothing to suggest otherwise

Very silly think to do and I expect that will be the end of Gareth Hock's season. As mentioned above I don't think he intended to do it, but then when his hand was all over Harrison's face he did the unthinkable. Idiot really.

Shame because I thought apart from that Gareth Hock was our best player today and caused Warrington the most problems.