Clifford based on what you are saying / what you have been told. There was never a need for Hock to find his passport because he was never going to France in the first place. Had he lost his passport he would have been delayed but not prevented from playing v Cats. He would not be the first player to arrive late due to passport problems. McIlorum and Lanzarote

Do you think Hock would be training if they are treating an injury? Surely your player friend has told you Hock has ongoing injury issues and to play requires injections? The team has already been named for Cats so you should know it already.

so what you saying, he wasnt going in the first place due to injury and that he has arrived late and is not playing because they cant get him fit??
ok if he has an injury and was not going there anyway , why are you saying he is there and they cant get him fit. he does have an ongoing injury problem but this usually does not stop him from being present with the team?. Have you seen him in France? the team was named tonight. he is not in it and not in the same hotel. your confusing me a bit. and even if what i have heard is rubbish , am i not allowed to post it, considereing that half the stuff on here is a load of rumours???

oh and by the way, the physio's and doctors that treat injured players stay in the same hotel as the team, so ok he might not be training with the team but other players get treatment/massages before games and they have not seen him in there either. so is a team of unknown french doctors /physios trying to get him fit???

Hock aint playing. Defo.

As previous, the posts about his passport wasnt made up.

His sisters post on facebook:

Kirsty Lousie Brown did gaz make it love? mum said he couldnt find his passport the dumb ! xxSat 18:11 · Comment · LikeUnlike

He couldnt find his passport on saturday morning when the team were due to leave, hence he didnt travel. He coyuldnt get a replacement as its Easter weekend and the passport office is closed!!!!!!

I agree with this - for anyone who can remember the story, Cameron Phelps could be the new Mark Cannon

Thing i liked abut Phelps on Thursday besides his kicking game was his willingness to run the ball back something we have been lacking since Radders i think he could go well for us at Fullback.

I think the whole hock passport thing is because of Richie Mathers.....

Bloody Hell Mthers

Hock in squad, Pat out wiganwarriors.com/news_full.asp?newsid=4685 Roberts, Carmont, Smith, Leuluai, Fielden, Riddell, Paleaaesina, Hock, Bailey, O'Loughlin, J. Tomkins, Coley, Hansen, McIlorum, Prescott, Phelps, Gleeson, S. Tomkins, Ainscough.

Hock in squad, Pat out wiganwarriors.com/news_full.asp?newsid=4685 Roberts, Carmont, Smith, Leuluai, Fielden, Riddell, Paleaaesina, Hock, Bailey, O'Loughlin, J. Tomkins, Coley, Hansen, McIlorum, Prescott, Phelps, Gleeson, S. Tomkins, Ainscough.

Quote ="kirkamania6"Hock in squad, Pat out wiganwarriors.com/news_full.asp?newsid=4685 Roberts, Carmont, Smith, Leuluai, Fielden, Riddell, Paleaaesina, Hock, Bailey, O'Loughlin, J. Tomkins, Coley, Hansen, McIlorum, Prescott, Phelps, Gleeson, S. Tomkins, Ainscough.'" Hopefully same as thursday but probably gunna be :- Phelps Roberts Gleeson Carmont (hopefully) Ainscough Sam Tommy Fielden Riddell Coley Bailey Hansen Lockers Macca Feka PP Tomkins no idea what there gunna do if carmont cant play

Quote ="kirkamania6"Hock in squad, Pat out wiganwarriors.com/news_full.asp?newsid=4685 Roberts, Carmont, Smith, Leuluai, Fielden, Riddell, Paleaaesina, Hock, Bailey, O'Loughlin, J. Tomkins, Coley, Hansen, McIlorum, Prescott, Phelps, Gleeson, S. Tomkins, Ainscough.'" Hopefully same as thursday but probably gunna be :- Phelps Roberts Gleeson Carmont (hopefully) Ainscough Sam Tommy Fielden Riddell Coley Bailey Hansen Lockers Macca Feka PP Tomkins no idea what there gunna do if carmont cant play

I think i'll believe the official site thanks .

The worrying thing is, if Carmont and Hock are out, not only are we limited in our cover options from the 19, but Smith will be in.

I dont think they have to stick with the 19 cause Phelps wasnt in the squad for Saints. Hopefully Gouldings travelled with them

ok.

Even if you need a new passport you can get a replacement in hours.

How does Clifford or Tricky explain Hock being in the squad?

Spread rumours about undeserving players is on thing but somebody who puts his body on the line every time he wears the Cherry n White. Someone who is stupid / brave enough to keep playing with the aid of injections (that do not last for a full 40 let alone 80) then that is Out of Order. He should not play v Cats. It is impossible for him to get the swelling down from his ankle in the time between Saints and Cats. However, this is Gaz Hock.

Clifford you are putting players in a dangerous position. When Hock finds out he is going to head straight for Ainsy or Sam Tomkins.

Nail on head every week somebody says he has gone awal or did something stupid in town , this not having ago at you personally Tricky but he is named in the squad and if he dose not play because of injury thats fair enough, and if he is not in france then club need to sort this out internally .
If you are correct it shows the clubs organisation in a very poor light indeed .

He needs to head straight for his sister. That is who put it on facebook.

I am certainly not knocking the lad. He is in the running for man of steel for me and he wont be the last person to misplace their passport. The rest will do his ancle good and should allow him to regain his fitness by the celtic game.

I am not spreading malicious rumours, simply reporting facts and not in a derogatory way either.

the squad was announced BEFORE this passport thing came up.

thats why Hocks in it

He could. After watching the game again, Phelps wasn't at fault for the high kick that led to Pryce's try - it was Roberts. He claimed it and didn't get it.

It was also Phelps's kicks that led to us getting repeat sets on St.helens's line.

I hope he can get a few games there see how he go's. I thought it was Roberts that went for the bomb i also though after looking at it a few time that a saints player knocked it on but cant complain about it Roberts should have got the ball

Does seem that the competition aspect has put a rocket up Phelps' 'arris and spurred him on when he's got his chance. After all, until the Stains game most would have been happy to see Phelps sold or sent on a short term loan with 24hr recall.

Well i have not thought that at any time he is not quick enough to be a winger but is not a bad stand in . Was not that impressed when he had that game at SO but he did ok but was quite impressed with his fullback play and was very impressed with his kicking game and he has never been one to shy away from running the ball in

I'm in general agreement. I also believe he'd not get some of his grief if he was a Wigan lad and not an Aussie. He's a good utility back, never going to set the world on fire but a handy squad player to have at the right price.

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Obviously he is going to have the hump with his sister too. Who incidentally does not say he lost it permanently. How many of us misplace something and end up looking around for it for X hours before hey presto we find it. I agree with Saints Simon BTW. The club should have the passport of every player in their hands a week before a game abroad.

Clifford? He suddenly starts giving team details and it coincides with Ainsy and Sam getting in the team who do you think Hock or Mick Hogan is going to head towards? Clifford is doing the player concerned no favours.