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| Quote ="sergeant pepper"We'll that's convenient. It's either sport is different to the "real world" or it isn't.'"
An individual choosing who to work for is down to their own personal choice and their own personal reasons for doing so. Nothing to do with sport or business.
Now if you're talking about a club deciding on whether to offer someone a higher wage vs a business doing so then no you can't compare them. One works to a salary cap and one doesn't.
Neither of those have anything to do with how either entity manages ill discipline though.
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| I wonder if Zak stilll thinks he's the best FB in the competition?
You'll be fine without him.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"I wonder if Zak stilll thinks he's the best FB in the competition?
You'll be fine without him.'"
That ship has sailed, never to return..
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"I wonder if Zak stilll thinks he's the best FB in the competition?
You'll be fine without him.'"
To be fair to him, that's not what he said. He said he was the best defensive fullback in the comp and to be honest he could well be.
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| Quote ="Pemps"To be fair to him, that's not what he said. He said he was the best defensive fullback in the comp and to be honest he could well be.'"
I think we could miss his defensive skills and poss his kicking.
Peet had to do what he did to put his stamp on it really
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| Quote ="Shabino"Think a bit of slack might be needed with Zak. Isn’t he travelling over from Ponte? And he has a baby and we all know how you feel after a bad nights sleep…..'"
his choice to move back over there
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| Quote ="sergeant pepper"Now that's twaddle.
If you instruct a solicitor, account or other service to do a job for you and they said a jnr out and blame it on BS internal culture stuff you'd be happy? Especially if that deal was a highly important one? They aren't doing right by you.'"
that makes no sense....
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| Back on the game itself. It's utterly crucial that we have a good first 20 mins until the likes of Havard and Mago come off the bench. Discipline has to be bang on too. The fear of an Isa going hunting fills me with dread. Tommy Leauluai is the benchmark of how to control aggression. (watch him get sent off now)
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| That's true. Tommy doesn't often get it wrong. I don't really want to see Willie in the side.
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| Head says- Saints 24-Wigan 12
Heart says-Wigan 24 - Saints 12
I believe Bevan will cause havoc as he owes them one and all eyes will be on Jai so Bevan will roam the back line as alluded to before.
Just need to hold them for 20mins (easier said than done) then it will become really interesting too see wwho will crack first and the the response.
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| I can’t wait for this afternoon ! It’s gonna be a cracker !
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| Quote ="moto748"That's true. Tommy doesn't often get it wrong. I don't really want to see Willie in the side.'"
If the team is picked on form he doesn’t get in…though Peet may pick him on merit (for other things he offers). Personally I think our back row is stronger without him.
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| Bibby having a shocker
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| Bibby struggling to hold Hurrell.
We need to get real about our three-quarters. We're still short of good centres.
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| Our own interchange has absolutely crucified us, along with French’s dreadful defensive misreads. As for Bibby, bin him off. Should never be a centre at a club like ours.
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| Plain stupidity, silly penalties, we've gifted them field position.
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| Swap Bibby and Bateman ASAP.
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| Went from an excellent attacking position with 6 tackles in the barrel to conceding a try under the posts in 2 plays. Very disappointing passage of play.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Went from an excellent attacking position with 6 tackles in the barrel to conceding a try under the posts in 2 plays. Very disappointing passage of play.'"
We’ve clear weakness at this level. Centres, hooker and interchange props. We knew it would take longer than one winter to fix but it’s glaring.
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| Embarrassing from Paasi falling on the floor. Fanny.
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| Bibby having a shocker, from his terrible first half attempted pass to faz to the pathetic attempts on Hurrell
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| Quote ="Pieman"Bibby having a shocker, from his terrible first half attempted pass to faz to the pathetic attempts on Hurrell'"
For too long, particularly at Wigan, the centre position has been farmed out as some alternative home for under-skilled, meat-headed second rowers or for a limited winger like Bibby to just chuck his body about. It’s a dead position at the club unfortunately.
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| Quote ="Pieman"Bibby having a shocker, from his terrible first half attempted pass to faz to the pathetic attempts on Hurrell'"
It's tough to single him out, but he's definitely out of his depth at this level, and this game is underlining it. Sorry to say, but he's never really been Wigan standard. If we want to upgrade to a point where we can give the current Saints team a tough test regularly, there's no room in the 1st team for players like Jake.
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| I don’t think it’s as bad as some are saying, we’ve competed pretty well I think, although the momentum swung to Saints in the last 10/15. The Lomax try I thought was a forward pass from Hurrell and we bombed a certain try in the second minute, the scoreline could be in our favour.
I do agree it might be worth swapping Bibby for Bateman in the second half, maybe even Miski and French?
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| Quote ="CobraCraig"I don’t think it’s as bad as some are saying, we’ve competed pretty well I think, although the momentum swung to Saints in the last 10/15. The Lomax try I thought was a forward pass from Hurrell and we bombed a certain try in the second minute, the scoreline could be in our favour.
I do agree it might be worth swapping Bibby for Bateman in the second half, maybe even Miski and French?'"
Can’t fault that first 20 other than the dreadfully awful error from Bibby. After that, our interchange lost us any momentum. We brought Mago on to be on the front foot and he spent more time defending.
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