I've never worked behind a bar but it baffles me how they still manage to have problems with the pumps in the South Stand more or less every game. Surely they must lose more money from all the people put off by the queues than what they would need to spend to fix the issue.

I think this is what has brought wane and also wigan success consistently and why even when against arguably better sides have come up trumps in big games. Some of the players in the side will have been coached by him at every stage of their Wigan career which I believe is huge these players will give that bit extra over a player brought in from another club.

I am excited for his international debut.i think it will suit him more than going to another club.if he can instil that win at all costs attitude into the england and gb set up I will be very happy

Very good question, but I'd flip it and say where do those 8 -10k fans go when it's not Good Friday?

The stadium isn't the be all and end all, but it does play a part in answering the question. The ground, for whatever reason, doesn't get going until there's a decent crowd on there.

Would a smaller stadium have created a more intimidating atmosphere and would that in turn have made it more appealing to stay away fans? I don't think anyone could answer that question, but smaller grounds do tend to have more atmosphere and that adds something to a night out at the rugby.

I agree it is very good but it’s daft to say it’s better than the DW IMO

It would be lost gate receipt revenue of £200-220k every two years with additional losses on merch, food & drink sales. Also every two years Wigan play Saints at home twice (loop fixture) and whilst we don't normally attract a capacity crowd it's normally well attended... 17k to 19k. So there's more lost revenue there.

Add in other games that have attracted more than 15k (Wire, Leeds at home) and it starts to add up. Then there has been World Club Finals that have been held.

Yes im mindful that our attendances over the last 2-3 seasons have dipped but historically since we've been at the DW we've had a decent number of gates over 15k (Bradford in their pomp... etc).

When crowds are allowed back I don’t think there’ll be many, if any, empty seats in most SL stadiums. It’ll be a huge money spinner for all clubs concerned and you’d imagine they’ll be throwing out cheap tickets like confetti to get crowds in and back.

The CV19 conspirators were right about one thing (kind of) - the great reset. The time fans have spent away from the game [ishould[/i act as motivation to get back to games they’ve made excuses not to get to in the past. If we as a sport can capitalise on that with the correct marketing we could be on to something. This becomes more prevalent with the World Cup which I’d imagine would be the first major international tournament held with crowds probably in Europe post CV19.

Crowds are dropping because the grounds too big! Brilliant.

I am on about design of stadiums.

All the ones I have mentioned are better examples than the DW Stadium.

As for atmosphere, even Victory Park, home of Chorley FC has a better match day atmosphere than the souless DW Stadium!

Why, do you not know?

Going off your logic.... If I gathered a dozen of my mates into my kitchen (post covid of course) and gobbed off a few rounds of "Wanky Warrington" it would have a better atmosphere than the DW stadium.

Depends if your kitchen is designed to have 12 or 25 in it. If it’s 12 it’s rocking, if it’s 25 it’s a soul less white elephant mate

Oh I know. I'm just wondering if you're willing to accept why it was given your love affair for all things 4.

Not looking likely i dont think.

In an era where most RL clubs including us are struggling to make ends meet, the idea of Wigan building it's own ground is for the birds.

I don't love the DW but at least it's a stable and somewhat modern home.