Which makes it ok then? Glad you cleared that up.

My point is that of ALL clubs, i find it incredulous that Wigan fans have the gall to call out cheap shots when the Macguire and Wane years have all been about going for players knees.

Add that to the Big Time Charlie 'glass' Bateman and McIlorums cheap shots - it makes it even more hypocritical.

Like I said PRIMARY SCHOOL argument. How dare someone have an opinion on something else because a player they have no control over did something completely unconnected - grow up.

For your information the general consensus on here from what I can remember was that Hohaia deserved that first punch (he did in fact get a ban for putting his forearm on Flower's face) but the 2nd punch was unforgivable and deserving of a lengthy ban. But that might get in the way of your extremely immature argument and way of thinking.

Stepping over the BS for a minute ( I'm not pointing fingers at either side). I hope Gildart makes a swift recovery.

Absolute state of this, just absolutely tragic. Poor lads been badly hurt in a nasty tackle and all you're ar*ed about is previous incidents from years ago and comparing players' history to one an another. Get a grip, fella or should i say ya little immature kid.

I'm in disbelief that anyone could put forward so stupid an argument. This would sound childish in a primary school playground! Good to see that the vast majority of Leeds fans are rational adults. I'd despair if this was the general level of debate. What next? My dad's bigger than yours?



Hope Olly is soon well and playing again. Unfortunately personal experience makes me fear the worst. Back injuries are rarely straight forward and this sounds like a bad one.

I hope Gildart makes a full recovery and Ferres is rightly banned. I do think Wigans medical team and coaching staff have questions to answer though regarding putting him back on the field for a couple of minutes after half time to ensure they didn't lose an interchange. If indeed that was the reason. What could have happened to Gildart if he had been required to make a tackle in the time he was on the field?
Although the extent of the injury was not known at that stage it was obvious to us at the game and tv viewers that he was in a lot of pain and should not have been on the pitch.

It doesn't make sense though, that's not how it works with interchanges.

According to the Wigan Evening Post t'other day, if Gildart hadn't come back on inside of 15 minutes (including HT) he wouldn't have been allowed back on at all, even if he was fit with 30 minutes to go. Can only assume he/Wigan didn't realise how bad his injury was and that he may have boon okay later on.

Quite.

I think you'll find the sheer vitriol towards Ferres by a section on here as equally childish. Let's hope that this isn't referred to when the next bad tackle happens. Like the infamous McGuire incident.

Speedy recovery to Gildart.

Gildart wanted to see if he could play through it, he jogged onto the pitch and realised he couldnt. Hardly surprising with the injury he has, but it just shows how tough rugby league players can be, sometimes to their detriment.

Any Leeds fan trying to defend Ferres need to have a word with themselves, it doesnt matter if we have had players in the past worse or better, the incident being discussed was an absolute shocker from someone with previous for crushers and spear tackles. 4-8 matches is nowhere near long enough for somebody who continually commits tackles that endanger others necks

Ferres [umight[/u have broken a young lads back. BROKEN HIS FUCKING BACK!!!!!!!

Deserves everything he gets if true. In fact he deserves everything he gets just by risking it.

Id sooner have a punch of Flower than my neck and back being mangled any day of the week

Not many on here (if any) backed the Flower incident at all.
Whilst his first punch was forgivable (following Hohia's elbow into Flower's face), but the 2nd punch was totally uncalled for and unnecessary as he'd already laid him out.

Everyone on here agreed it was a straight red and deserved a long ban, which he received.
In fact, there were a significant number of Wigan fans calling for him to be sacked.


There's the difference.

I don't think the 'vitriol' on here is at all childish. I think it is warranted in the light of what everyone, including a lot of Leeds fans, can see was a deliberate act designed to injure another player.
Which is the opposite of the McGuire incident: IIRC that was self inflicted in his act of trying to foul someone (George Carmont I think).
Thanks for your wishes for a speedy recovery.

That's not the case. Even if it was, he could just step onto the pitch then step straight back off.

Now they're comparing it to the time Danny McGuire got injured in the act of cheating!

I've stayed out of this because I know from experience on here that you can't reason with a percentage of these Leeds morons but that takes the biscuit!!

If this had happened last year or even 4 weeks back we wouldn't have heard a peep. I'm genuinely counting down the weeks until we get to play them with a proper team out (if we do get afforded that luxury at some point).

**just to add there's a few decent minded Leeds 'fans' who've posted on the subject so fair play to you**

there is a percentage of all fans who can be total bell ends behind a keyboard, this wigan forum is tame compared to the other one where the morons reside in greater numbers,
Ps hope Gildart makes a full and speedy recovery, great talent

Ferres 6 matches I believe.

Yes, six weeks! Doesn't seem right when Gildart will miss 8 to 12 weeks.
I also think that if Gildart hadn't sustained the injury he would have tackled Watkins, preventing the try. We hadn't got the speed with ISA defending.

And Thaler demoted to refereeing Fev v London this weekend.

Good! But it doesn't help Wigan.

thats always been the case, seems fair

In the grand scheme of things 6 matches is about right. I say this after every serious piece of foul play I see on the pitch and I'll say it again, I think the disciplinary are soft and consistently don't hand out long enough bans.

In the sense that it's probably the most we could realistically have hoped for, yes, I agree.

ISTR that when there was a lengthy thread on this topic not long back, there was general agreement amongst fans of all clubs that punishments were too lenient.

Yet is VR for Wigan vs Cas on Thursday.

6 games is just about right i suppose.