We don't have one player with a pair of nuts.

What's going to happen is we are knocked out away from home in the Semi Final.

That will mean we have gone full circle since Waney was appointed head coach and will be at the same point we were when Noble's contract was not renewed after another season of nothing.

Waney has coached us back to the Noble era.

He's gotta go asap.

It will be down to the individual talents of the players and the fact the rest of SL is w***. End of chat.

If we don't WIN the GF I'll fully support Wane's sacking.

You said we were relegation fodder and wouldn't make the top 4 a few months back

What happens if we win it (unlikely) on, as you put it, the back of the individual talents of players and the fact the rest of SL is w***?

Should that save Wane in your opinion? Or does he stay and we rely on the individual talents of players and the fact the rest of SL is w*** going forward?

If Catalans had got their act together over the past couple of months and looking at the rest of our fixtures we may well have been in real trouble to make the top 4, we've had luck on our side in the respect of points we have got this season so i wouldn't ridicule too much.

Pretty much every other team in the league play better rugby than us, but as you pointed out, indivduals within the team have won us close games, a clear sign that the coach ain't got a clue..

Last 5 games one win against Wakefield. That is bottom of the shoite pile.
Get a grip and get the ale in soft lad.
GF?????????
If Catalan weren't so suicidal We wouldn't be anywhere near the top 4.
I think you also said we win win LLS?.... Keep smoking and take care of your mam.

IF we win it, you will probably cry your eyes out Dave.

IF IF IF. IF [uwe[/u had got our act together, we'd be clear at the top.

This may come as a shock to you but we're 2nd in SL.

Why are you so d, you don't go the game anyway. You know what they say about empty vessels

Don't worry normal service will be resumed next week, beware it could be a false dawn though.

Seems a bit odd calling for a coach to be sacked when you are going to make the top 4.
However, I'm so glad I don't have to watch that style of rugby every week. Once our forward pack refused to be bullied, there seemed to be no 'plan B' from Wigan.
Hope Manfredi is okay, he looked to have his knee in a brace. Seemed to be a fair shot from Rangi, wonder if Manfredi's knee buckled just before Rangi hit him, I was surprised how far he was knocked back.
Someone needs to tell Sam Tomkins his constant petulance towards referees is probably costing his team penalties. He seemed to be more interested in stropping around and complaining about every decision rather than playing the game. Sensibly, it looked like you changed your on-field captain once he looked like spending 10 minutes having a rest. He's always seem to struggle playing at Cas, he can't seem to cope with the pressure he is put under by the Castleford fans.
Credit to Ben Flower after the game, he was the only Wigan player to spend time signing autographs and having photos with the fans at the front of the main stand.

Well,I was there, and as I was stopping overnight in the pub opposite, I felt like the only gay in the village in the beer garden after the game!






I'm not an of watching games from behind the goals (although as ever the camaraderie of the Wigan fans was nice), but my initial thoughts were

a). The score flattered us, Cas were much the better side. They looked sharper and faster in every department.

b) For all the hype and complaints about low standards, Sam Tomkin's doesn't even look the best full-back in SL. Not by a distance.

C). People are blaming Wane, and I don't necessarily disagree, but perhaps the question should be, just how good is our squad, man for man, compared to the rest? Not that good, in my view. Probably about on a level with Saints

but well below Hull, Catalans, Wire, and, yes, Cas.

The Wane critics have been the same, and the same people since he was put in post... In-fact one of them threw a spammy when Maguire was given the job, describing him as an "untried rookie"... I'm certainly not saying all is perfect, but if you look for any chink of light here, the doom mongers have a field day..

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Wrong in many ways.

Performances this season is shocking were going backwards. Beat a poor Wakey side and continually are clueless in attack. You happy only Leeds scored less than us in the first rounds of SL before the split.

Wrong I was not calling or complaining about Wane until mid part last season when its obvious the attack was struggling. There are a lot more critics of Wane now than there was start of tis season hiding behind ohhh its the same ones shows how little you really know of how bad we are.

Question for you if we do not win the GF after the crap we have seen this last 18 months should Wane keep his job?

Perhaps i should have started with "Most of the Wane critics"....

I don't give a toss where anybody else finishes...

Thanks for telling me how to think, but if you don't mind, i'll come to my own conclusions. Just because i'm positive, does not mean i am totally deluded, i just happen to be positive.

In answer to your question, no.

PS, take care of your blood pressure..

Think you been bit harsh on you coach on last night match first it was an excellent match both teams played well we was just bit more clinical and hungry but I do think coach needs let the shackles of the team Wigan when I seen them this year you played best rugby when chasing the game and they look very good team and on last nights win for us this is our strongest team we managed to put on pitch all year.

Positive people tend to miss out on what is happening around them. rather be a realist.

I think i did ask you to stop telling me how to think... Have a lovely day...

And you have a Very lovely realistic day too.

I was there last night, yes it was another poor one.
There was one bloke in particular who will probably floating in the Dougy by now! Never heard anything like it.

Looking at it with my heart - we need to win two of our final five super 8 matches to make the semi's (away) - then it's knockout rugby and anyone's game. Plus we are getting players back out at the right time.

Looking at it with my head - we could scrape through to the semi's and then limp out. Looking toward next season.

We've been devastated by injuries/suspensions/etc this year, and we all expect our full squad would be up there challenging for silverware, but those things can happen to anyone.
What is going to change, apart from TL for MS, JB for JC, for you to look forward to anything other than more of the same next season?
I'm disappointed to read all the 'Wane Out' stuff, but most would agree we aren't playing a good brand that people want to see.

Didn't say I was looking forward to next season, more looking toward next season. Changes do need to be made (tactics, plan moves). I'm happy to give SW one more season (if we limp out the semi's/super8's this season). If we don't improve next season though then.....

We haven't played good rugby in a while, long before the injuries. It stretches back to last year.

We go on about our structure, in attack recently it doesn't look like we have one. It's so basic, just basically catch and pass, there's little movement off the ball, it's the players off the ball that occupy defenders, there is nothing there. Defenders just hit the man with the ball or the one guy we have hitting a gap. It's embarrassing to watch at times, if Shaun Wane wants to call people fickle for calling him on our dire efforts with the ball and he doesn't consider it an issue, the I really do worry. If our structured play was that good, then the players coming in would know the moves, the talent might not be as good, but the moves should still be there. Fact is, they aren't there, with our without our best team on the field.