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| Quote ="Anozira"amazed nobody(including Sky) noticed Pettybourne throw elbow to Woods head when on the floor.'"
What is amazing is you seeing something that didn't happen.
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| Quote ="St pete"Really? I and everyone I was with last night agreed was straight red card and IMO deserves two match ban.
One thing I will say. Big Alex isn't a dirty thuggish type of a player and plays the game hard and fair. It wasn't intentional unlike other cowardly thuggish behaviour I've seen'"
Utter rubbish , it was a cynical attempt to take out huddersfields only play maker.
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| Quote ="hatty"Utter rubbish , it was a cynical attempt to take out huddersfields only play maker.'"
Utter rubbish, we are the softest team in super league and are a team that has no instruction to take key players out unlike other teams .....
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| Quote ="St pete"Really? I and everyone I was with last night agreed was straight red card and IMO deserves two match ban.
One thing I will say. Big Alex isn't a dirty thuggish type of a player and plays the game hard and fair. It wasn't intentional unlike other cowardly thuggish behaviour I've seen'"
It amazing isn't it. That when an opposition player commits foul play it's "cowardly thuggish behaviour"' when it's one of your own it's "(insert name here) isn't that type of player". No yes, really, the hypocrisy from over the hill. I suppose it's human nature to want to defend your own, there's plenty on here do it with Wigan players.
Walmsey knew exactly what he was doing. I've seen it done many times by pretty much every club including Wigan. The idea is to try and make sure your fully committed, if you succeed they you'll get away with it and rattle a half back. He knew full well that Robinson was going to pass the ball. He hit him late, not ridiculously late, but definitely late. There was also direct contact with the head which is what got him sent off.
My comment was directed at the St Helens supporters posting on this thread prior to the Walmsey incident who have gone missing since.
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| Quote ="St pete"Utter rubbish, we are the softest team in super league and are a team that has no instruction to take key players out unlike other teams .....'"
Have you suddenly become Nathan brown? Ironic really when a couple years ago brown said if referees don't protect the little guys then he will ask the forwards to do it" oh how times change
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| Quote ="hatty"Utter rubbish , it was a cynical attempt to take out huddersfields only play maker.'"
Nah, he,s a clumsy soft lad, he could lodge in with Micky Mac for a couple of years and he wouln't be any different.
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| Quote ="Pemps"Now you're just making stuff up.
High - Yes
Late - Dixon had the ball
Behind - It was front on'"
So it was brave and honourable then. We salute you Mickey Mac you're a great example to the kids who are watching.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4wakey"So it was brave and honourable then. We salute you Mickey Mac you're a great example to the kids who are watching.'"
Show me where I said that? I was picking you up on the two bits you completely made up.
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| Jesus Christ I come on here and back MM and quote that I think he's a good player and get stick.
I posted that I believe walmsley deserved the red card and IMO 3 match ban and still get slated.
Some things never change hahaha love it
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| McIlorum hasn't been cited for any incident during Thursday's game and will be free to play against Huddersfield.
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| Burn him...oh wait it was a fuss over nothing other then it being McIlorum.
Standard stuff.
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| Quote ="WARRIORCRAIG"McIlorum hasn't been cited for any incident during Thursday's game and will be free to play against Huddersfield.'"
And IMO rightly so.
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| I've a feeling he won't be playing this week anyway but I hope I'm wrong
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| Quote ="Vectrabeast"I've a feeling he won't be playing this week anyway but I hope I'm wrong
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Why do you think he won't be playing/
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| Quote ="WARRIORCRAIG"McIlorum hasn't been cited for any incident during Thursday's game and will be free to play against Huddersfield.'"
Yep, stand by for meltdown.
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| Quote ="Singing Warrior"Why do you think he won't be playing/'"
Possibly injured
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| He's done nothing to be cited for, late tackle, silly throw on Higham are hardly things you should have to go to Red Hall for, and the 3rd man in knee attack isn't illegal on this side of the world.
Can't see why there should be a meltdown?
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| Quote ="Wire Yed"He's done nothing to be cited for, late tackle, silly throw on Higham are hardly things you should have to go to Red Hall for, and the 3rd man in knee attack isn't illegal on this side of the world.
Can't see why there should be a meltdown?'"
You obviously haven't read all the comments earlier on this thread, on the VT and a fair few elsewhere prior to the disciplinary deciding he had no case to answer.
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| I hate the 3rd man tackle to the lower leg and wince whenever it is done even if it's Wire, I hate it.
It can be career ending, please see sense SL and get it banned, until then I won't moan at anyone particular as it isn't illegal.
I still think it's a cowardly tackle and unfortunately I've seen McIllorum use it way too much.
I can deal with all the other rough stuff as it's usually fair and at least with biff you have the chance to throw back.
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| Quote ="Wire Yed"I hate the 3rd man tackle to the lower leg and wince whenever it is done even if it's Wire, I hate it.
It can be career ending, please see sense SL and get it banned, until then I won't moan at anyone particular as it isn't illegal.
I still think it's a cowardly tackle and unfortunately I've seen McIllorum use it way too much.
I can deal with all the other rough stuff as it's usually fair and at least with biff you have the chance to throw back.'"
Don't disagree with you Yed on the knee tackle per se but I think we shouldn't get ahead of ourselves here. The tackle to the legs is fine as long as it's to the back of the knees. There is no more chance of injury from this particular tackle than any other part of the game. We, as a RL community, are too often in danger of throwing the baby out with the bathwater and I think this is another case in point. Tackling around the legs is fine. It remains fine as long as there is no specific danger to the players. Our game shouldn't be watered down any more than is absolutely necessary to protect players.
As an aside to this, I watched both MM incidents again yesterday as I'd only seen them at the game and was surprised by some of the vitriol being spouted on these boards. At the game I'd seen little more than a tough, uncompromising game of Rugby League; in fact the very type of game that first attracted me to the sport. I've watched it again and I was absolutely right. There was nothing in either incident that I hadn't seen thousands of times and, in fact, MM's 'incidents' were totally unremarkable. A slightly late check tackle and a tackle to the back of the legs! I was totally bemused by the reaction (other than it being pantomime villain McIlorum, of course!). As I've said over on your board, had it been any other player I doubt it would have warranted so much as a mention!
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| Quote ="Wire Yed"and the 3rd man in knee attack isn't illegal on this side of the world.'"
Mickey Paea got a 2 match ban for doing it against Castleford. Not even a penalty was awarded on the pitch at the time.
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:3ngv12caCan't see why there should be a meltdown?[/
Because not everyone on these forums has an 'unbiased' view like you.
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| Quote ="Hasbag"Mickey Paea got a 2 match ban for doing it against Castleford. Not even a penalty was awarded on the pitch at the time.'"
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"Don't disagree with you Yed on the knee tackle per se but I think we shouldn't get ahead of ourselves here. The tackle to the legs is fine as long as it's to the back of the knees. There is no more chance of injury from this particular tackle than any other part of the game. We, as a RL community, are too often in danger of throwing the baby out with the bathwater and I think this is another case in point. Tackling around the legs is fine. It remains fine as long as there is no specific danger to the players. Our game shouldn't be watered down any more than is absolutely necessary to protect players.
As an aside to this, I watched both MM incidents again yesterday as I'd only seen them at the game and was surprised by some of the vitriol being spouted on these boards. At the game I'd seen little more than a tough, uncompromising game of Rugby League; in fact the very type of game that first attracted me to the sport. I've watched it again and I was absolutely right. There was nothing in either incident that I hadn't seen thousands of times and, in fact, MM's 'incidents' were totally unremarkable. A slightly late check tackle and a tackle to the back of the legs! I was totally bemused by the reaction (other than it being pantomime villain McIlorum, of course!). As I've said over on your board, had it been any other player I doubt it would have warranted so much as a mention!'"
Tackling around the legs is and always will be fine as long as its a standard tackle. When its not fine to me is when the attacker has been stopped usually by 2 defenders and the 3rd man is just there to injure by putting pressure on the knees or ankle joints. And as for your mm's late tackle from behind as being called a late check tackle is remarkable. He 's not the sharpest tool in the box but one thing he knows about is slyness on a rugby league field. He has every cheap shot in the book .Maybe got it off his dad mr newton
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