Rumour also that he is leaving.

Until either confirmed its just talk.

Another rumour is that NZ Warriors are getting cold feet due to the state of Sam's fragile health during the last couple of months, just as plausible as any other rumour going the rounds.

I think that system gives 1st a disadvantage in that they then have 2 weeks off where the rust could kick in. I think a better top 5 system is

1 through to week 2
2v5
3v4

Then week 2 is 1st place at home to the lowest placed week one winners, with the other week 1 winners playing at home to the highest placed week 1 losers.

Just for 2014? You are normally not far off Rogues. how confident are you?

I don't know how long for.
Source was reasonable, so I'd say 50:50, which is much better than the 20:80 of a day ago.

That's basically what it will be like under the new system in 2015.

Top 8 for the split but you have to finish in the top 4 to have a shot at OT.

Works for me

Playoff System:

1st goes through to the GF.
2nd goes through to the semi final.
3rd plays 4th, winner plays 2nd, winner of that faces who came top.

Only 4 teams in the playoffs, each rewarded something higher for were they finished in the league. This system keeps the playoffs and adds more emphasis on doing well in the league.

The team going to the GF wont have played for 3 weeks by the time it comes around, that could be a massive disadvantage come the day

If they want a competitive Super League at the top end then make it a top three play off.
1st goes to GF.
2nd v 3rd for the other GF place.
The 1st team only has the one week off.
The semi would be well attended as it's last chance for both clubs.
Whether it's top 8 or 5 play off crowds are going down each year as fans are bored with it all. No point in playing games if no one wants to pay to watch.

I agree with this format for 2015 after the top 8 have played each other once this will give all the 8 clubs something to play for no easy root to O/T.

My preferred system (assuming the 3X8 system is approved) would be a top 4 playoff -

Week 1

1v2 for Grand Final Qualifier
3v4 Elimination Playoff

Loser of 1v2 plays winner of 3v4 - Grand Final Qualifier

Grand Final

I was told Monday there was a strong chance he could be staying. His terms had been agreed with NZW but the transfer fee had not.

ive trawled through the last 6 pages and managed to find about 5 posts about Sam Tomkins...some people get sidetracked too easily

Over the moon if that's true, one more year would massively help us out, not only with our chances of winning trophies next year, but also the development of Tierney and Hampshire. Maybe in 2015 we could see

1 Tierney
6 Hampshire
7 Smith
15 Williams/Logan/S.Powell

Do you think tha...............Oh look shiny things..!!

All we need is one more year IMO. We have Tierney, Burgess, Hampshire and Williams busting a gut to get in the first team but all 4 just need another 12-18 months worth of first team chances, without being first choices before being ready to step in.

I can't see Tomkins not going now but I'd be delighted if there was anything in it. We had that three year agreement with him and we need him to stick to it. At the end if next year he'd go with everyone's blessing and we'd still be looking at a good fee for him.

Lenagan has read all the negative comments on here, cacked it and pulled the plug on the deal

Lenegan has seen how his team goes without Sam and knows if he's not here next year the chances of silverware are minus zero.
NZW are in this deal with big money wages and big money transfer fee. Now Sam hasn't played in the league for weeks maybe they are getting worried, very worried about spending vast sums of money on a player who can't play!
I just think there's a lot more going on here than we at first realised!

Or maybe Lenagan has been doing all he can all along to stop the move all along...

I agree FT, i also think there is much more to this than meets the eye, and not as simple as many people might assume.

#onemoreyearsam

Would the sky deal necessarily be lower? They could still show the same number of games even with a shorter play off system (since they don't show anywhere near every game at the moment) and if anything a shorter playoff system and a more meaningful league competition might make their RL programming more popular.

#tenmoreyearssam

Wire yesterday announced 11 players have extended their contracts. 2 of those were M Moneghan (sp?) and Atkins. On their board some were convinced MM was retiring and Atkins was off to Rah Rah. Just shows how much us fans actually know.

Wire and Leeds are keeping nice settled squads and tieing players to long term deals regardless of interest from elsewhere.

It really is rather depressing tbh! They can do it but we can't or don't want to.