Even if we lose him we'll overcome it. For what we lose in his undoubted brilliance, we gain in ditching a penalty machine that, if the rumours are true, has a poor attitude. Don't want people like that at the club. If he can't act like proffessional then we don't need him.

SW's "No comment" when questioned about it speaks volumes for me.

If he can't act professionally at a club with the history, culture and ethos we have at Wigan then God help him at somewhere like Widnes or Salford.

Widnes and Salford are short of quality players.
Gaz Hock is very much a quality player.

I was amazed that Hock is a tempting 10/1 to be in the Dream Team in 2013 and was initially thinking of slapping some money on. On second thoughts the bookies aren't daft and must know there's something going on.

Last person i remember saying this was James Rule just before Paul Cooke signed for Rovers!

this

We really are a Wigan retirement home. Hock would be an amazing signing

well its true signed 3 year contract for the mighty vikings six figure sum ! , watch this space .....

We need an announcement.........

This what? Is rubbish, you don't agree with, you do agree with? What is the point of just posting "this" it adds nothing to a discussion.

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I think you'll find we deal quite well with troublemakers. Moore & Watts, arguably our two most talented players last term were shown the door for being utter bell ends. A few others were given final warnings and after all that our team started to play more like a, well, er, team!

This!

We seem to be going backwards and backwards. I think our only saving grace is that the overall standard of Super League is heading in the same direction so we should still be top 4 or thereabouts.

You may be right Woody. It may also be that Hock has to leave Wigan for one reason or another. It may also show an evening out of talent across SL which can only be good for the game. If more quality players play against rather than with each other, then in theory that should give us the week in week out intensity that will help us when we come up against Aus/NZ.

The arrogance inherent in that statement is so astounding its almost to be applauded.....almost. nor do i understand you premise. plenty of history and what you would call the 'correct ethos' at widnes good sir.

It'll be one more nail in the coffin if we lose Hock. We all know Sam will be off soon, Mossops rumored to have an NRL clause, Hansens getting offers from the NRL, thats the core of the great team we have built. We are heading the way we were in 2006, and replacing these players with others who arent good enough.

i dont know if hes going or not...... he may be a penalty machine and have a lot of baggage but hes the best second row in england and every team whether they admit it or not would like him in their side

IF he goes then I would hope/like Wigan to bring in Nathan Hindmarsh on a one year deal, just to add a bit of steel and help with the leadership.

Definitely going - Wigan just holding out for a fee. Apparently his attitude since the Aus deal fell through hasn't been great. Not many people mess Shaun Wane about and get away with it. Widnes bound if they stump up the fee

This I think is the real shame of it. Hock will go downhill because he will be the big star, pretty much untouchable, and he will be frustrated as heck, standing behind the sticks conceding try after try while opposition fans target him with taunts.

I've always had a lot of time for Hock despite what people say about him (same with Gleeson), yes he's a bit of a headtheball but he's in the highest class. I would have loved to see him go to the NRL, I think on hard grounds with great support play round them he could carve up and be a superstar there.

If it didn't mean coming to Lancashire & having to look at a Wiganer's hairy ass I would love to see it.

No need to get offended. We're Wigan Rugby and it's just how we roll!

So where do Widnes get this six figure sum from? It doesn't seem that long since D Betts was saying Widnes were in a bad way financially!