yes you've definitely won that argument, congrats

Roby came second, Sam third.

Roby will win metre maker though. Wow!

Quote ="tropical1"Man of Steel is voted for by the players, not the media not the fans and not the powers that be, this award is players showing respect for their fellow professionals and for any of you who have ever played the game there is not better award to win at your end of season awards than players player. So it doesn't matter what the fans think this award is for players showing respect to the person they feel has had the best season. The article is back on m.mirror.co.uk/article?a=m4:23465093'" Had Sam played fair all year and not constantly tried to get penalties and his stupidity at wembley then he has the skill to have walked away with this award. Not really been wigans week has it lol

Quote ="tropical1"Man of Steel is voted for by the players, not the media not the fans and not the powers that be, this award is players showing respect for their fellow professionals and for any of you who have ever played the game there is not better award to win at your end of season awards than players player. So it doesn't matter what the fans think this award is for players showing respect to the person they feel has had the best season. The article is back on m.mirror.co.uk/article?a=m4:23465093'" Had Sam played fair all year and not constantly tried to get penalties and his stupidity at wembley then he has the skill to have walked away with this award. Not really been wigans week has it lol

Stupidity at Wembley probably even he will agree.

As for trying to win penalties, no more than 99% of players in super league. Ive never seen so many dives at the play of the ball as i have this season. Its just Sam Tomkins is the most high profile player in the league and everybody watches his every move because he is ace



Its a nice award to win but its nothing compared to a championship or a challenge cup is it? Nobody can take them away from him and im sure he will get more.

Correct . And that is why he has taken the easy option and elected to throw his hat in with England , rather than fight for a place with N.Z.



Oh , and mabye make sure he is allocated another visa at renewal time

Yesterday really was an appalling day in the history of RL, though the incompetence, hypocrisy and Wigan hating of much of the RL world was actually very amusing.

First the story finally breaks that some clubs have been underpaying the revenue, a clear breach of rule A3:1 of the RFL's operational rules.

In other sports an announcement would be made by the governing body that the clubs concerned were being investigated for misconduct. But no, this is rugby league, and as others have said on this board the political reality of our morally bankrupt game is that they will not be punished for breaching A3:1 or for the obvious and very serious breach of the spirit of the salary cap that this failed tax avoidance constitutes.

And then we have the players' opinion on who the greatest player of 2011 was. What's their opinion worth? Well as a group who have taken years to form a union and given that many players - like turkeys voting for Christmas - still speak out in favour of the salary cap, despite the cap having reduced their wages collectively by more than 30% in real terms, I attach very little weight to what they say on any subject.

The truth of course is that Sam Tomkins played some breathtaking rugby this season. He's the best British player since Hanley and if he avoids injury and stays in RL he could well go on to top even the great man. Chase is a very good player and Roby has had an extraordinary season but Sam is just on a different level.

The reality is that this award, like much that goes on in RL, is a complete joke. So while the muppets in the RL establishment continue to damage the game with their politics, hypocrisy and Wigan hating, I suppose at least we can have a laugh at the expense of these total idiots.

As ever your deluded bitterness shines through.

Sam is a cracking broken field runner, the best in superleague no doubt.

He joins the line like no other player in superleague, and beats men with ease.

But what else does he do? His defence is not great, his decision making under pressure needs to mature and (as an eventual halfback) he wasn't that good at moving the team around the pitch, also his kicking game needed work.

He could be a great, literally great number 6 given time (and imo a coach who will help mature him).

To say it's too early to compare him to Hanley is an understatement.

You have just displayed in full why you are a laughing stock on other boards.

Please tell me it was a bad dream and Chase has not got the MOS?

Lost count of the number of times this season when Sam was the last line of defence faced with a one on one he brought his man down to save a try .

I agree comparing with Hanley is a bit much to say the least but asking what else he does is just churlish and you know it. Next you will be telling me Myler is better

Thought Roby would get it.

Sam should have walked it.

Surprised Chase got it but he is a cracking player.

Ah well I won't lose any sleep.

Was a genuine question actually, as you see more than i do of him i'm sure.

From what i have seen he regularly makes bad decisions, what i am getting at i suppose is that as teams learn his play more he will probably find it harder to make the breaks, and if he loses a yard of pace, as all players do as years go on, he will need to develop massively in other areas to be considered a great over his career.

Who mentioned Myler?

So is there a chance of a proper response?

you do know the award is voted for by the players don't you.
Or is it another anti - wigan conspiracy.

I dont understand how they got so many awards wrong.

MOS shouldnt be chase it should have been Roby even our own Tomkins is outclassed by this guy at times.

How team of the year can be anyone but Wire is ludicrous.

They got young player right though so well done there at least.

What else as he done?!

Go and watch every game of this season and then comeback you complete and utter idiot.

Yep! that and other inspired moments of stupid unprofessional acts.

He is an awesome talent but some of his actions on the pitch obviously warrant little respect from his peers!

When he grows up he might win it

Warrington went from a team in third to a team that finished top (only a 5 point swing in the end I think) whereas Catalans went from bottom to 6th and a playoff win. They constantly got high crowds despite moving around the area and thus promoted the game better than most. I named them as a contender in the week, but didn't think they wouldn't give Wire anything seeing as they seem to love them, but Catalans were by far and away the best candidate imo.

Classy, well thought out response.

Now any chance of a real answer?

It is a genuine question.

I am getting at the fact that surely he must be being groomed to play 6.

In the absence of an organising half back partner, do you think he will be able to step up to this challenge?

I hope he does, genuinely as england bloody well needs it !

It's obvious he shows that kind of respect to his peers on the pitch!

He has upset plenty with underhand niggleing

It doesn't bother me, every team needs a bit of niggle but if he wants man of steel don't be a complete twonk to the people who have to vote for ya! Leave that to the likes of Bailey, Joel and pryce

Chase was banned for getting on top of another playing and battering him....thats ok though?

Quote ="tropical1"Man of Steel is voted for by the players, not the media not the fans and not the powers that be, this award is players showing respect for their fellow professionals and for any of you who have ever played the game there is not better award to win at your end of season awards than players player. So it doesn't matter what the fans think this award is for players showing respect to the person they feel has had the best season. The article is back on m.mirror.co.uk/article?a=m4:23465093'" 100% bang on and anybody can see from some of Tomkins actions why his peers don't respect him.

Quote ="tropical1"Man of Steel is voted for by the players, not the media not the fans and not the powers that be, this award is players showing respect for their fellow professionals and for any of you who have ever played the game there is not better award to win at your end of season awards than players player. So it doesn't matter what the fans think this award is for players showing respect to the person they feel has had the best season. The article is back on m.mirror.co.uk/article?a=m4:23465093'" 100% bang on and anybody can see from some of Tomkins actions why his peers don't respect him.

I thought the award is supposed to be for the stand out performer in the whole league? Not who is best in the showers or who is an all round good egg. If people seriously think that Tomkins is the only player that has done a bit of niggling then they are more deluded than I thought. Not just that but why is Chase also rated in front of Roby? That utter stupidity too

The king of niggle plays for Leeds anyway, Danny mcguire

Its that embarrassing that its actually funny, just like international RL.

of course loads of players niggle! To mention McGuire is a joke. Mcguie is not dirty at all. that's just Wigan hate(Wigan translation jealousy) well that's what you say when anyone mentions tomkin! But the other players who niggle arnt in the running for MOS!

All the blokes who win it from now on will be good players but guys who play the game in good spirt! The game needs nigglers but not many will win MoS steel. Tomkin has a cocky arrogance which Is a part of him. That's fair enough. But it isn't gonna help him win MOS. Thems the brakes!

Your opinion no longer holds any validity on RL matters.