I'm sorry, in fact I'm not sorry, but for me the cup means sweet FA now.

The fact Wire have managed to win really devalues it as like I said earlier your a nothing side.

I'm an Everton as well as Saints STH and your blue mate must have been winding you up as there was no way we were going to finish in the top 2. The most deluded fans in the round ball game is LFC fans as every August they tell everyone they will win the league and always fail.

Anyway i digress....

The bickering between Wire and Wigan is a bit childish sometimes but yes your right St Helens and Wigan do have more respect for each other hence little or no bickering.

We're absolutely horrendous aren't we, take it you missed the last two games vs Wire at the DW.

Now you really are worse than WireWonder.

Yawn

Here we go again. Beating Wigan and then bottling it in the playoffs like last year doesn't make you a big club.

Only Wire fans can claim it does.

IF we won the GF would that devalue it, IF we won the WCC would that devalue it ? would you just stop watching rugby altogether?

The reason Wigan are all upset with Wire is because we are now a real force and we win trophies that Wigan fans think are rightfully theirs.

We're your biggest rivals now so best get used to it.

you see yed and originalwire, you cant have a civilised conversation with a wigan fan.no respect from them to us. thats what happens when someone consistantly beats them one there own midding.priestman your a bellend.

Sorry Priestman, but you're talking poop.

No your not.

TheoriginalWire was right about this guy. Your not even Saints and Leeds are. Unless you can actually get to a GF tbh your not a major rival. I agree winning the CC is a big achievment but GF proves over a long season who is the best. Something the Wire have failed to do. You have a great side but its old and you seem unable to get 2 big wins in a row and thats your downfall especially last season.

How?

I can't see how anyone can love the CC? Five game spread over about 6 months and a day out at Wembley.

I'll pass on that one thanks.

I've got to disagree with that! Obviously you're entitled to your opinion but to me Murrayfield in 2002 was very special and definitely meant a lot!

To say wire winning the cup devalues it is a pretty ridiculous thing to say too. Wire beat every team that they came up against, what more could they have done? Whether you like it or not they are now a good side and will challenge for all competitions, means more big games for us. Ok so a lot of their fans have jumped on the bandwagon, and there are definitely some idiots on here, but by saying some of the things you have you're only encouraging them and at times you're as bad as them, IMO of course.

Your sig' says...
3 World Club Challenges
19 League Titles
17 Challenge Cup wins

You missed from that list 2 super league grand finals. But do say 17 Challenge Cup wins. Surely that defeats what you say about Wembley?

And 2 of those World Club Challenges were won on Wigan's home ground so they can be dismissed.

1 of them was in 87. 91 was won at Anfield and 94 made history when we won in Brisbane.

FAIL !!

If a Leeds, Bulls or a Saints fan had said that then it would hold some merit. Coming from a Wire fan its bloody hilarious.



2 trophies in over a decade and they are all of a sudden in the same calibre of teams with real success.

oh dear!

Wigan are a bigger club than us but Warrington are a larger club than the 3 clubs in question that you mention.

Oh and when those 3 won World Club Challenges they did it playing at neutral venues.

in your opinion why are wire a bigger club than leeds/saints??

oh dear. and we won it once playing Brisbane Broncos at Brisbane's ground. Or did you miss that.

Your so deluded its beyond a joke Leeds, Saints, Bradford are far bigger than Wire will ever be. Just remeber Hull won the CC and they have never been a force in SL. And your on the same level as them.

WOW look at Wirewonder profile and this forum is his most active. Tells you it all i feel.

Their actually lower than Hull simply because Hull FC have been to a GF.

See what I mean about the CC it means sweet FA in terms of a clubs stature.

Leeds,Saints and Bradford bigger than Wire???? Go and have a word with yourself. Wire are a great club.

At least we've never been in danger of being relegated from SL. I can name a side that plays in cherry (now girly pink) and white that did though.

How many Challenge Cups have you won in the last few years?

How many play-off matches have you won in the last few years...? Compared to the clubs mentioned...

why are you bigger than leeds,saints bradford ???