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| Quote ="Geoff""Pieman2010" wrote
I meant we were consistently at the top end of the table toward the end of the year. We always managed to get into the play offs and then have a good run.
However, our FORM was inconsistent not where we finished!
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| Maguire, joined on a two-year contract with an option for a third season.
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| I hope he doesn't go but if he does then lets get Nathan Brown signed up, i'm not sure wane is ready yet to take over the reins
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| If Maguire goes next season then its a no brainer give the job to Shaun Wane. No need to bring in another coach. Then give assistant to Radlinski. Promote from within rather than bring a new face. Done that way too often in the last 10-15 years for little success.
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| Quote ="tank123"If Maguire goes next season then its a no brainer give the job to Shaun Wane. No need to bring in another coach. Then give assistant to Radlinski. Promote from within rather than bring a new face. Done that way too often in the last 10-15 years for little success.'"
Radders doesn't want a managers job. He says as much in his book.
It has to be, and I think it will be going to Wane. An experienced number 2 wouldn't go wrong tho. Can't think of many off the top of my head but a quality number 2 is a must.
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| Quote ="tank123"If Maguire goes next season then its a no brainer give the job to Shaun Wane. No need to bring in another coach. Then give assistant to Radlinski. Promote from within rather than bring a new face. Done that way too often in the last 10-15 years for little success.'"
That's what I've been saying. Wane has been at the club long enough in several capacities having started at the Academy. If he isn't ready to be a Head Coach now then he never will be IMO. This way offers the least disruptive way of replacing Madge, and haviung won the Grand Final last year I'd say we'd be better off changing as little as possible
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| I've always dreamed since I was a 10 year old kid at the time Shaun Edwards left that he'd one day return to coach the side.
I get the impression there are many fans who would also love it to happen from the romantics standpoint. That combined with the fact that its clear to see through interviews in the media he's developed a reputation as one of the top coaches in RU.
I doubt Edwards would be willing to take an assistant's post under Wane and I can't see Wane being happy with continuing at the club if he's passed on for head coach for the 2nd time, especially given his experience as a number 2 now.
So its one or the other. Common sense points to Wane but I just have an inclination that Edwards would be fantastic as Wigan head coach. If you can't be inspired as a young Wiganer playing under Edwards then why bother?
As for Maguire, I wasn't happy that he seemed to be yet another who's gone back on his word and broken a commitment. But if is in fact a two year deal with an option then he's done nothing wrong whatsoever. It just begs the question why did Wigan and Lenagan inform the fans it was a straight 3 year contract?
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| Gutted but sadly think its true, and I would hasten to bet the players already know given their performance against Catalan at the weekend.
The biggest worry for me is I think this loss could put us well back, and instead of a wigan dynasty over the next few years I expected, unfortunately I can see a return to mid table mediocrity. The problem being that I think it will take a hell of a coach to eradicate the culture of compliancy we still sadly have. We saw it in the last 20 against saints this year and in the hull game at home, and last year at bratfud and at home to quins BEFORE we even had the uncertainty of madge leaving, and we've seen it even more since- My worry is with madge gone we will revert back to the team we were under noble, underperforming massively against the weaker teams and losing, only raising our game for the big games.
Add to that, wane seems a shoe in and while he is a cracking bloke, I doubt he is tactically astute enough to give us the edge that madge has. Unfortunately I cant see him doing any better than nobby did!
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| Quote ="gerr'emonside"Gutted but sadly think its true, and I would hasten to bet the players already know given their performance against Catalan at the weekend.
The biggest worry for me is I think this loss could put us well back, and instead of a wigan dynasty over the next few years I expected, unfortunately I can see a return to mid table mediocrity. The problem being that I think it will take a hell of a coach to eradicate the culture of compliancy we still sadly have. We saw it in the last 20 against saints this year and in the hull game at home, and last year at bratfud and at home to quins BEFORE we even had the uncertainty of madge leaving, and we've seen it even more since- My worry is with madge gone we will revert back to the team we were under noble, underperforming massively against the weaker teams and losing, only raising our game for the big games.
Add to that, wane seems a shoe in and while he is a cracking bloke, I doubt he is tactically astute enough to give us the edge that madge has. Unfortunately I cant see him doing any better than nobby did!
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In my opinion our current playing roster means we will always be in the mix for the forseeable future, no matter who the coach is.
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| Quote ="gerr'emonside"Gutted but sadly think its true, and I would hasten to bet the players already know given their performance against Catalan at the weekend.
The biggest worry for me is I think this loss could put us well back, and instead of a wigan dynasty over the next few years I expected, unfortunately I can see a return to mid table mediocrity. The problem being that I think it will take a hell of a coach to eradicate the culture of compliancy we still sadly have. We saw it in the last 20 against saints this year and in the hull game at home, and last year at bratfud and at home to quins BEFORE we even had the uncertainty of madge leaving, and we've seen it even more since- My worry is with madge gone we will revert back to the team we were under noble, underperforming massively against the weaker teams and losing, only raising our game for the big games.
Add to that, wane seems a shoe in and while he is a cracking bloke, I doubt he is tactically astute enough to give us the edge that madge has. Unfortunately I cant see him doing any better than nobby did!
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Were doomed.
FFS some Wigan fans need to get a grip with all this doom BS.
We've got a quality bunch of players many are already quality and have years left like Lockers, Tommy & Richards and others like Joel, Sam, Faz, Mossop & Charnley are ripping SL up despite being young guys.
With or without Madge the future is bright at Wigan.
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| I could see Shandy Farrell coming back before Sean Edwards to coach Wigan.
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| Quote ="Raymond Pennington"I could see Shandy Farrell coming back before Sean Edwards to coach Wigan.'"
Why?
He's just got the Sarries head coaches job for next season.
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| Quote ="Raymond Pennington"I could see Shandy Farrell coming back before Sean Edwards to coach Wigan.'"
Farrell has barely begun his RU coaching career. I seriously doubt he'd be allowed to walk into the top job at Wigan. Maybe as Wane's number two seeing as Rads has always distanced himself from it
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"Were doomed.
FFS some Wigan fans need to get a grip with all this doom BS.
We've got a quality bunch of players many are already quality and have years left like Lockers, Tommy & Richards and others like Joel, Sam, Faz, Mossop & Charnley are ripping SL up despite being young guys.
With or without Madge the future is bright at Wigan.'"
Amen to that!
IF (and i mean IF) he goes and SW steps up, i can see no reason why we cant kick on. Its not as if he has not already got a good first team record as a stand in. Add to the fact that his record in the reserves is nothing short of phenomenal.
Even if Mr Wane does not take the top job, i am sure we will recruit the very best available. I have heard that Barrow have just got rid of a very highly rated coach?. perhaps this young gun will provide the tactical nuance required to take this great club of ours forward?
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| If Wane isn't ready or doesn't want it. Simply we should move heaven and earth for Nathan Brown.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"In my opinion our current playing roster means we will always be in the mix for the forseeable future, no matter who the coach is.'"
The same playing roster that noble had and had us hovering around 5th and 6th you mean?!
For me the major reason we are challenging is due to madge. Without him, while im not saying we're doomed, I just fear we'll fall back to being 'on the cusp challenging' again rather than challenging and leading the way.
As I said before, Wane is not the answer IMO- Cracking lad, and a great motivator but will prove himself not to be tactically astute enough IMO and sadly I think the push into the limelight could end his wigan career. Would much rather keep him as a number 2 as wouldnt want to risk losing him.
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"If Wane isn't ready or doesn't want it. Simply we should move heaven and earth for Nathan Brown.'"
Isn't he going back to Oz once his contract is up? Sure it took all Huddersfield could muster to convince to stay on past 2010?
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| Quote ="dirtbag83"Isn't he going back to Oz once his contract is up? Sure it took all Huddersfield could muster to convince to stay on past 2010?'"
They like to say that but in reality he wasn't offered an NRL job so he stayed.
If the same happens again I'd take him at Wigan.
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| Quote ="gerr'emonside"The same playing roster that noble had and had us hovering around 5th and 6th you mean?!
For me the major reason we are challenging is due to madge. Without him, while im not saying we're doomed, I just fear we'll fall back to being 'on the cusp challenging' again rather than challenging and leading the way.
As I said before, Wane is not the answer IMO- Cracking lad, and a great motivator but will prove himself not to be tactically astute enough IMO and sadly I think the push into the limelight could end his wigan career. Would much rather keep him as a number 2 as wouldnt want to risk losing him.'"
The players are good enough to challenge.
Simple as that.
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| Wane and Edwards partnership will do me.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"I've always dreamed since I was a 10 year old kid at the time Shaun Edwards left that he'd one day return to coach the side.
So its one or the other. Common sense points to Wane but I just have an inclination that Edwards would be fantastic as Wigan head coach. If you can't be inspired as a young Wiganer playing under Edwards then why bother?'"
If you had asked me would Edwards have been a great choice when Noble clearly wasn't going to get a new deal before we knew Maguire had got the job I'd have agreed with you. Now I have seen what a modern RL coach can do I think Edwards needs to go and work under Bennett before coming back to RL. Edwards has been away too long. This is an about face for me as I always thought Edwards would be dedicated and obsessed enough to be a coach with modern ideas himself i.e. teach himself to be on a par with the Aussies. Now I am not sure he could without an apprenticeship.
Quote As for Maguire, I wasn't happy that he seemed to be yet another who's gone back on his word and broken a commitment. But if is in fact a two year deal with an option then he's done nothing wrong whatsoever. It just begs the question why did Wigan and Lenagan inform the fans it was a straight 3 year contract?'"
The idea because technically he can get a release does not mean he isn't in the wrong. There are loads of examples in every day life that show just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. He has broken his word and commitment (if he is off) because he signed a three year deal. It looks like it just so happens there was a mechanism there to allow to go back on his word and commitment.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Are you for real?
Is that what the world of business entails then? Everything in black and white? No room for negotiation? No legal or contractual wrangles of any description? All disputes being thrashed out straight away without any hitches?'"
For Gods sake all I said was I doubted it would take long to get resolved given it is just a coach resigning and getting a new job.
Coaches leave clubs in sport all the time without any long drawn out legal process. It's rare that happens at all even in soccer with its mega-bucks. They resign and get a new job. It's pretty simple.
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| If Maguire is to leave at the end of the season then I just hope we get it all out in the open so we can concentrate on the job in hand. I really hope it isn't true but can't see it not being and I think he will be off at the end of this season. That is fine aslong we don't bring problems upon ourselves by leaving everyone in the dark.
Get it out in the open, let the players and fans get their heads around it and lets kick on to some more silverware both whilst Maguire is here and after he's gone under Shaun Wanes leadership.
The culture that has been bread under Maguire is one of no excuses and that if one man exits the team via injury or other means that just means an opportunity for somebody else. The same can be said of the coaching role in itself. If one man in Maguire leaves then that becomes Shaun Wanes opportunity and i'd back him 100% to continue the great work that has been started.
One thing is for sure we can't all start getting all 'doom and gloom' over this. It's not great news if confirmed but it's far from being the end of the world.
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