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| Quote ="endoman"Bill Ashurst must get a mention'"
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| has to be Prescott after the broken arm, still taking drives in with it.
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| Quote ="Pieman"Give over'"
Timmy Street did have a reputation as a hard man, i know it was in the lower leagues and not Super League but he did none the less.
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| Quote ="ian c"Timmy Street did have a reputation as a hard man, i know it was in the lower leagues and not Super League but he did none the less.'"
My mate at 17 leathered him when he was in the Widnes academy, Dave Whittle and Tony Coterill were/are harder
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| Quote ="Pieman"My mate at 17 leathered him when he was in the Widnes academy, Dave Whittle and Tony Coterill were/are harder'"
Everyone get beat at some time Pieman, i agree about Dave Whittle and Tony Cotterill being hard.
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| Quote ="ian c"Everyone get beat at some time Pieman, i agree about Dave Whittle and Tony Cotterill being hard.'"
But he was 17 and Timmy was in his prime...to be fair he was nails
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| Quote ="Pieman"but not in a ruck, otherwise you could use the example of cassidy and morley'"
well it wasnt really a ruck.....there had been some previous from a game at central park .. koloto went late into the tackle on skerret, who wasnt very happy.... they squared up and Koloto just gave him a big swinging right hand and it was all over.
cassidy threw an elbow into Morleys head like a coward as he ran straight at him.
so absolutely nothing like the example whatsoever.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"well it wasnt really a ruck.....there had been some previous from a game at central park .. koloto went late into the tackle on skerret, who wasnt very happy.... they squared up and Koloto just gave him a big swinging right hand and it was all over.
cassidy threw an elbow into Morleys head like a coward as he ran straight at him.
so absolutely nothing like the example whatsoever.'"
Also stemming from previous from when Morley had crocked McCormack illegally.
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| Quote ="Pieman"Also stemming from previous from when Morley had crocked McCormack illegally.'"
what's that got to do with kevin skerrett getting sparked out by Koloto?
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| for wigan.....Bill Ashurst, Faz, the yet unmentioned Danny Gardner, Cass.......................but the 2 hardest imo , are Mctigue and Denis Boyd.
if those 2 came to blows it would be a tough call with Boydys legendary head butt probably swinging it his way.
other teams....present player....dirty but hard....Keith Senior
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"what's that got to do with kevin skerrett getting sparked out by Koloto?'"
I suspect he's responding to this:
Quote ="morleys_deckchair"cassidy threw an elbow into Morleys head like a coward as he ran straight at him.'"
In that just as Koloto/Skerrett stemmed from previous, Cassidy's elbow also stemmed from previous from Morley, earlier in the same game in fact on Robbie McCormack. Wasn't too hard to figure out really, was it.
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| Quote ="wigan pie man"for wigan.....Bill Ashurst, Faz, the yet unmentioned Danny Gardner, Cass.......................but the 2 hardest imo , are Mctigue and Denis Boyd.
if those 2 came to blows it would be a tough call with Boydys legendary head butt probably swinging it his way.
other teams....present player....dirty but hard....Keith Senior'"
I think McTigue would have have got enough punches in before Boyd could have got near enough to use his head.
Good call with Danny Gardiner. Lovely man off the field but an absolute animal on it.
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| Not the greatest of players but fans from the 70's may remember Tommy Highton, a full back (unfortunately behind George Fairbairn) who if you faced him one on one would unleash one of his "specials", with the inevaitable result of someone (not Highton) reassembling himself several minutes later.
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| Quote ="Cronus"I suspect he's responding to this:
In that just as Koloto/Skerrett stemmed from previous, Cassidy's elbow also stemmed from previous from Morley, earlier in the same game in fact on Robbie McCormack. Wasn't too hard to figure out really, was it.'"
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| Quote ="Cronus"I suspect he's responding to this:
In that just as Koloto/Skerrett stemmed from previous, Cassidy's elbow also stemmed from previous from Morley, earlier in the same game in fact on Robbie McCormack. Wasn't too hard to figure out really, was it.'"
so how is getting knocked clean out in a stand up fight the same as getting knocked out by a cheap elbow?
people are putting skerett up as the hardest of the hard... yet Koloto knocked him out fair and square... so he isnt is he?
previous has nothing to do with the discussion...
not that really hard to figure out when you consider the subject matter is it?
unless of course you are saying cassidy is a harder player than morley.
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| Quote ="Pie minister"There's one other player who was rock solid mark broadhurst from hull kr , if memory serves me right there's a video on you tube where he hits a player once and cleans him out'"
Was a great game with Queensland hurting rovers badly until up stepped Broadhurst and knocked out the hooker and after that Queensland played alot cleaner.
Rovers won and the all conquering Queensland team asked for a rematch,rovers refused after counting the cost of injuries from the match !
A true classic.
Len Casey and david Watkinson was handy also.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"so how is getting knocked clean out in a stand up fight the same as getting knocked out by a cheap elbow?'"
No-one said it was. If you can get your head round it, the whole conversation started because you said Skerrett was 'cleaned out'. Only later did you explain it was a punch. [size=85(BTW - does anyone else remember this incident?)[/size
Quote ="morleys_deckchair"people are putting skerett up as the hardest of the hard... yet Koloto knocked him out fair and square... so he isnt is he?'"
Land a good first punch and you can clean anyone out.
Quote ="morleys_deckchair"previous has nothing to do with the discussion...'"
You were actually the first to mention previous, between Koloto and Skerrett in the game at central park. Pieman simply replied that the Cassidy incident also came about as a result of previous.
Quote ="morleys_deckchair"not that really hard to figure out when you consider the subject matter is it?'"
Clearly harder for some than others.
Quote ="morleys_deckchair"unless of course you are saying cassidy is a harder player than morley.'"
I don't think anyone's said that either. But remember this: size does not equal mental or physical toughness. Morley has always had the advantage of being huge. Cassidy, with his rather more diminutive frame and weight, mixed it with the biggest and toughest in world RL for almost 20 years.
There are plenty of other names in this thread I think we can place ahead of Cassidy, Koloto and your hero Morley.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I think McTigue would have have got enough punches in before Boyd could have got near enough to use his head.
Good call with Danny Gardiner. Lovely man off the field but an absolute animal on it.'"
your possibly right....boydy had a jaw of iron , but mctigues boxing background may have swung it.
correct about danny gardiner....draftsman by day, doorman at paradise club in scholes at weekends.
a true story..........Ken halliwell (swinton prop), was in there housing the week before they played wigan.....i believe Halliwell had a cheap shot at DG, before being escorted out with Danny telling him he wouls see him on the rugby field.
Halliwell worked diging holes for the water board with my mate...and told him this tale....he spent all week cr@pping himself.
Day of game...a couple of minutes in...Danny ever so cooly walked up to Halliwell face to face and flattened him....with the ball nowhere near the pair..lol.
result?....halliwell stretchered off, Danny sent off.
bring back the biff
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"
Mac, ever so politely whispered into the props ear, "Do you want it hard or f***ing hard"'"
You sure he was talking about fighting??????
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| Webbke for me.
pound 4 pound always enjoyed watching Nat Wood go
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| Quote ="Cronus"No-one said it was. If you can get your head round it, the whole conversation started because you said Skerrett was 'cleaned out'. Only later did you explain it was a punch. [size=85(BTW - does anyone else remember this incident?)[/size'"
Not my fault if you didn't go the match... infact i spoke to my brother about this the other day... due to his clean living, his memory is alot better than mine... he said Skerett threw the first punch and tried to headbutt koloto before he got sparked out... sorry to explain something else to you at a later date.
Quote ="Cronus"Land a good first punch and you can clean anyone out.'"
No you cant.. depends how weak chinned the person is receiving the punch.
Quote ="Cronus"You were actually the first to mention previous, between Koloto and Skerrett in the game at central park. Pieman simply replied that the Cassidy incident also came about as a result of previous.'"
ok.. so there was previous... it didn't lead to a cheap elbow to the head.. just a good old fashioned stand up fight...
Quote ="Cronus"Clearly harder for some than others.'"
at least we agree on something
Quote ="Cronus"I don't think anyone's said that either. But remember this: size does not equal mental or physical toughness. Morley has always had the advantage of being huge. Cassidy, with his rather more diminutive frame and weight, mixed it with the biggest and toughest in world RL for almost 20 years.'"
well done to him
Quote ="Cronus"There are plenty of other names in this thread I think we can place ahead of Cassidy, Koloto and your hero Morley.'"
Les Boyd for one.
anyway... i was only commenting on something i saw between 2 teams i don't like.. so for me, its no longer important enough to argue the toss about.
well played to you for coming and and trying to rescue pieman though... im sure he appreciated it
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"Not my fault if you didn't go the match... infact i spoke to my brother about this the other day... due to his clean living, his memory is alot better than mine... he said Skerett threw the first punch and tried to headbutt koloto before he got sparked out... sorry to explain something else to you at a later date.
No you cant.. depends how weak chinned the person is receiving the punch.
ok.. so there was previous... it didn't lead to a cheap elbow to the head.. just a good old fashioned stand up fight...
at least we agree on something
well done to him
Les Boyd for one.
anyway... i was only commenting on something i saw between 2 teams i don't like.. so for me, its no longer important enough to argue the toss about.
well played to you for coming and and trying to rescue pieman though... im sure he appreciated it
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I did but I didnt need rescuing I just ignored you like the bigger man I am
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| Quote ="Pieman"I did but I didnt need rescuing I just ignored you like the bigger man I am
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"Les Boyd for one.'"
If we're talking 'orrible cheapshot merchants, there's your man.
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| Quote ="Cronus"If we're talking 'orrible cheapshot merchants, there's your man.
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He was 'orrible but he was hard too.
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