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| Quote ="andyed-wiganrl"cant believe all the pro hock stuff on here.....the guy showed his alliegances to wigan rl when he chose a line of white powder ahead of our club!! Anyone who does that IMO should never play for the club again and I just hope leneghan takes the right approach rather than the soft approach in the main being put here.
=redYou should know not to put that on here. Pemps. Let him back/ keep him on and what message do you send to the young kids? It is integral to starting a new culture that we show zero tolerance and set him aside. I dont begrudge him trying to redeem himself in two years but he shouldnt be given another opportunity with us after he has shown such indiscipline and distain for our club
The guy should not play for wigan again'"
Buggar! missed it. Clues to what it was please. PMs welcome.
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| Quote ="andyed-wiganrl"cant believe all the pro hock stuff on here.....the guy showed his alliegances to wigan rl when he chose a line of white powder ahead of our club!! Anyone who does that IMO should never play for the club again and I just hope leneghan takes the right approach rather than the soft approach in the main being put here.
=redYou should know not to put that on here. Pemps. Let him back/ keep him on and what message do you send to the young kids? It is integral to starting a new culture that we show zero tolerance and set him aside. I dont begrudge him trying to redeem himself in two years but he shouldnt be given another opportunity with us after he has shown such indiscipline and distain for our club
The guy should not play for wigan again'"
Get off your high horse bud, its not like the lad has killed anyone!
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"www.wigantoday.net/warriors/Glimmer-of-hope-for-Hock.5650728.jp
Chances Hock could be back early according to this.'"
Sounds like a good idea they have there.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Sounds like a good idea they have there.'"
I can understand the reasons they have tbh.
Why should the punishment be the same for a guy thats been a fool by going out and taking a recreational drug is it as for a guy that takes a preformence enhancing drug to cheat his opponents and the sport.
I still believe they should be banned and should have to officially prove through regular drug tests they're clean before they come back but it doesn't seem to make much sense.
Whatever happens to Hock in terms of his ban i do hope that when he's back we enforce upon him weekly drugs tests to prove he's behaving himself. If he fails one he should then be sacked on the spot.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I can understand the reasons they have tbh.
Why should the punishment be the same for a guy thats been a fool by going out and taking a recreational drug is it as for a guy that takes a preformence enhancing drug to cheat his opponents and the sport.
I still believe they should be banned and should have to officially prove through regular drug tests they're clean before they come back but it doesn't seem to make much sense.
Whatever happens to Hock in terms of his ban i do hope that when he's back we enforce upon him weekly drugs tests to prove he's behaving himself. If he fails one he should then be sacked on the spot.'"
Absolutely spot on.
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| Have I missed a statement by the club on Hock, or are they still working out the wording almost 5 months after her was caught?
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| Quote ="martinbuckley"Have I missed a statement by the club on Hock, or are they still working out the wording almost 5 months after her was caught?'"
[urlhttp://www.wiganwarriors.com/News_full.asp?newsid=4911[/url
I think this is the clubs latest statement
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| They havent released one yet, obviously hoping the incident merely goes away, its not like the media care, even the rl press dont seem to.
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| Quote ="AJ"They havent released one yet, obviously hoping the incident merely goes away, its not like the media care, even the rl press dont seem to.'"
It’s a crazy stance to take.
IMO the best solution would just be to come out and say [i‘yeah Hock has been a bad boy and we working with Hock as much as we can to help him out. We are hopeful of signing a pre contract agreement with Hock any day now and this will be the last thing Wigan will comment on these difficult matters’[/i
That would be hell of a lot better than letting it foster and a whole will he won’t he situation rising closer to the date of his ban expiring.
Take the heat now, let the anti Wigan trolls come out of the woodwork and have a pop and then it will all die down over time. The last thing the club should want is for every two or three months a new person asks the question about Hock.
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| I know for a fact that there was a statement prepared about six weeks ago.
I really don't know why it hasn't been released, but maybe the club just wanted to get the coaching position announcement sorted first.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I know for a fact that there was a statement prepared about six weeks ago.
I really don't know why it hasn't been released, but maybe the club just wanted to get the coaching position announcement sorted first.'"
Do you know what it said?
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"Do you know what it said?'"
Not the exact wording but the gist of it. However I don't know if things have changed and if they have for whatever reason.
We'll just have t wait and see.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"We'll just have t wait and see.'"
Think we've done enough of that now.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"To be honest on this particular issue and given how long its been since the ban was confirmed, we've all had the patience of a Saint.
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to be honest wla there has been more important things to sort out at the club than release a statement saying what future hock has at the club. maybe lenagan wanted get mcguire's opinion before deciding anything
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| Quote ="wiganstripleL"to be honest wla there has been more important things to sort out at the club than release a statement saying what future hock has at the club. maybe lenagan wanted get mcguire's opinion before deciding anything'"
Sorry don't buy that at all.
We've known for months he failed it and the B sample was going to come back positive as he sold his story to the Screws of the World before the results.
I mean, seriously how long does it take to have an offical stance on what they're going to do (not that they have much choice btw, he can't be involved with the club during his ban)and stick out a press release for what has been the biggest drug story in the game's, never mind the club's history?
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"Sorry don't buy that at all.
We've known for months he failed it and the B sample was going to come back positive as he sold his story to the Screws of the World before the results.
I mean, seriously how long does it take to have an offical stance on what they're going to do (not that they have much choice btw, he can't be involved with the club during his ban)and stick out a press release for what has been the biggest drug story in the game's, never mind the club's history?'"
as i said maybe he's leaving it up to the new coach to decide if he wants him back at the club in 2011!
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| Quote ="wiganstripleL"as i said maybe he's leaving it up to the new coach to decide if he wants him back at the club in 2011!'"
The results and implications were all known well before Lenegan decided to go for another coach rather than Noble so that can't be a valid reason to have still said absolutely nothing.
Looks like it may well be 2011 before we know.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"The results and implications were all known well before Lenegan decided to go for another coach rather than Noble so that can't be a valid reason to have still said absolutely nothing.
Looks like it may well be 2011 before we know.
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maybe thats a question someone need to ask at the next fans forum why the delay in not annoucning anything!
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| Quote ="wiganstripleL"maybe thats a question someone need to ask at the next fans forum why the delay in not annoucning anything!'"
Surely there'll be more important questions that need answering, like how many Shredded Wheat Michael Maguire has for breakast?
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"Surely there'll be more important questions that need answering, like how many Shredded Wheat Michael Maguire has for breakast?'"
or even that woman might make another apperance and ask mcguire the same question she asked noble.. are you gonna teach phelps how to tackle proper!
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| Its a joke, but I dont expect we will ever see a statement and it will merely form one of IL's no go areas at any subsequent Fans Forums.
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