I was simply pointing out that your summation (big word there, not thick) of the wires chances might be coming from a person whose opinions are clouded by bitterness not somebody who is being completely subjective, and if you thought wigans pack could match the wires you clearly aren't.

2 of the top 4 forward packs.

In all honesty, i dont personally care who wins the final.
Sort Of Cheshire v Yawkshurr? Makes no difference to me [size=75[i(even though i do live in the pretty part of Cheshire these days!)[/i[/size
It aint us

And it aint Saints

- So it matters not one bit!

Every Wigan fan should want wire to lose IMO.

Why would anyone in the general public, i.e. not rugby league fans, care if Wigan and Saints are not there? Your question is a little mundane and pointless and tbh very disrespectful, why can't some fans from the so called "big four" not understand that this fixture demonstrates that rugby league may be becoming more competitive in this country, which can only be good for the game and it's profile

As a fan of Rugby League in general - Its difficult to argue your point 'cos you're dead right.
As a hard-hearted Wigan fan though - Losing to Dire in the Semi still sucks!

Wigan are no longer one of the "big four" mate, Think Kevin Costner, big in the ninetees but not getting any starring roles anymore and no one really cares or pays any attention to what he does anyway!

Then why are you on here.....??

Just enjoying Wigans demise and maybe, just maybe some of the wigan fans realisations that they really aren't a force anymore.................oh warry warry.........................w@#ky w@#ky w@#ky w@#ky warrington!

is there an echo in here.......

how dare wigan fans compare themselfs with saints, leeds, bulls in the modern game your just another run of the mill rugby club your not as big as you think anymore

In the old days the rest of the country would have been much more interested in, and watched the final than nowadays. Lets face it, there wasnt much choice. It was either the CC Final or wrestling on ITV.

On 29th August i bet more people will be watching the football scores on SSN than the final. Their loss i suppose, but thats the way it is.

In all honesty i'd rather watch the football scores coming through than the Heineken Cp Final, but i bet when i was a lad, i'd have watched the RU Final as there was nowt else on.

you dont need to sell the game to the public the fact two different teams are in the final will make it sell

you having a laugh mate

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The last time Dire won anything the mullet was still in fashion, there was no channel tunnel show how long ago it was, Dire never has been or never will a big club hope they enjoy there party but remember the present hasn`t been opened yet as for Bulls show where they are today even there own fans have jumped ship.

They do say that the best way to make a delusion seem real is to keep on reiterating it. You know, it's the old "tell a lie often enough and everyone will believe it" routine.

That, I'm guessing, is what you wusses are trying to do on here. But you're wasting your breath, because we know it isn't true. And so do you.

But it IS true mate, ask any non-wiganer if wigan are still a strong force in RL and i suspect you will get a vast majority of answers in the negative, it seems that since the day that the wigan club were found out as cheats nothing seams to have gone right for them, poetic justice me thinks.

I'd be more inclined to believe you if you didn't keep saying it - as if you were trying to convince yourself.

Big clubs don't need to announce their arrival. The world already knows about them. But then the last time you lot made the headlines was when you paid a fortune for a very washed-up, soon to be scandal-struck Aussie to play two matches for you. Even today, several of the dailies were less congratulatory and more concerned that your appearance in the Cup Final would cause attendance problems.

I happen to think you'll sell out, but that will be despite you not because of you. Whereas if it was us, there'd no problem - as you well know but would never have the balls to admit.

Think you'll find they were on about hudds low following, but hey why let facts get in the way? and wasn't it the same stuff as what hocks now banned for, and fielden's been stealing his wages for ages now!

At least try to put some juicy bait on that hook of yours.
No wonder you aint catching much!

Obsessed.....a 9 page thread....WOW!

your all talking crap fa cup final had cardiff and portsmouth ffs and that sold out or atleast all but sold out i went last year and there was loads of empty seats i bet there wont be as many this year and this final will be alot better than saints v catalans from 2 years ago so yea shut up you pie eating ********

try one of these ----> .
They teach you about them at Primary school.

more of a reason for it to capacity not a trophy winning a trophy will in fact attract more fans from the said towns as it's a once in a blue moon occasion where familiarality breeds contempt and the attitude "well i'll go next year when we get there"