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| Quote ="ABP'"Who?
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It was said that the Wire players arrested thread was started because of it being a big issue, just wondering if their was a 9 page thread on Ben Cockayne when he was arrested, if the thread wasn't started due to an obsession with Warrington?
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| Quote ="king warrior"100% agreed what do they want the lad to do take all the big guys on so he gets run over?
What the dire fans dont like is sam is getting more praise then myler'"
I don't think he is getting more praise to be honest, getting selected for your national team is the highest praise you can get.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Of course they are. Tomkins is their little hero boy. They aren't going to diss him for anything, in spite of him having been examined by the beak [url=http://www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplinary.php?player=Sam+tomkins&club=wigan&from_day=1&from_month=2&from_year=2009&to_day=3&to_month=8&to_year=2009&league=&charged=&search=searchfive times in his lengthy 17 game career[/url. I'd say that record speaks for itself. We don't need the Pies to acknowledge it.'"
[url=http://www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplinary.php?player=KIERON+cunningham&club=st+helens&from_day=1&from_month=2&from_year=2009&to_day=3&to_month=8&to_year=2009&league=&charged=&search=searchLet not mention kfc's record over the same period ey[/url
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| Quote ="Black Dodger"It was said that the Wire players arrested thread was started because of it being a big issue, just wondering if their was a 9 page thread on Ben Cockayne when he was arrested, if the thread wasn't started due to an obsession with Warrington?'"
Oh right.
Yeah there was.
Why Wigan would be obsessed with Warrington? Unlike Tomkins, there's nothing about the club that is a threat or makes us feel inferior.
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| Quote ="ABP'"There we go.
I wonder if the Saints' supporters posting in the 10 page thread on their forum can actually get over it now?
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Only 3 pages to go and you have a 10 page thread of your own
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| Quote ="Joe Elliott"Only 3 pages to go and you have a 10 page thread of your own
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You do realise that this is the Wigan forum, don't you?
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| Quote ="Cruncher" and you apparently defend their right to say that.'"
Is free speech not allowed now?
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| Quote ="Salty"So what you are saying is that the RFL are always right and don't make mistakes.'"
They're a damn sight more neutral than either of us
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"They're a damn sight more neutral than either of us
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Sometimes i wonder
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| Quote ="wigan_knight"Sometimes i wonder'"
Not since Uncle Mo packed in
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| Quote ="Enicomb"[url=http://www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplinary.php?player=KIERON+cunningham&club=st+helens&from_day=1&from_month=2&from_year=2009&to_day=3&to_month=8&to_year=2009&league=&charged=&search=searchLet not mention kfc's record over the same period ey[/url'"
Sure. I'm not denying Cunningham is a feisty tackler. But Tomkins is only just walking so far as an RL career is concerned yet already he's been before the beak 5 times and I'm not sure when Cunningham's last sin binning was whereas Tomkins has already had one!
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Sure. I'm not denying Cunningham is a feisty tackler. But Tomkins is only just walking so far as an RL career is concerned yet already he's been before the beak 5 times and I'm not sure when Cunningham's last sin binning was whereas Tomkins has already had one!'"
Hang Him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Sure. I'm not denying Cunningham is a feisty tackler. But Tomkins is only just walking so far as an RL career is concerned yet already he's been before the beak 5 times and I'm not sure when Cunningham's last sin binning was whereas Tomkins has already had one!'"
And what was it for?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"And what was it for?'"
Don't expect a reply anytime soon!
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"And what was it for?'"
Being a mouthy little scrote?
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Sure. I'm not denying Cunningham is a feisty tackler. But Tomkins is only just walking so far as an RL career is concerned yet already he's been before the beak 5 times and I'm not sure when Cunningham's last sin binning was whereas Tomkins has already had one!'"
Exactly he,s already done this kind of tackle that has injured a player to Damien Blanch, Ryan Atkins and Kieron Cunningham. Also unsavoury moments at kicking at the ball when the opposition head is next to the ball, and we have a couple of incidents of kicking out to the face when tackled.
Like I said before if Noble dosn,t teach him to play hard but fair then sooner than later someone will sort him out, the more he keeps on injurying players than the more I want to see him carried off, perhaps this will be the only way he will learn. Tomkins the players are watching you.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Exactly he,s already done this kind of tackle that has injured a player to Damien Blanch, Ryan Atkins and Kieron Cunningham. Also unsavoury moments at kicking at the ball when the opposition head is next to the ball, and we have a couple of incidents of kicking out to the face when tackled.
Like I said before if Noble dosn,t teach him to play hard but fair then sooner than later someone will sort him out, the more he keeps on injurying players than the more I want to see him carried off, perhaps this will be the only way he will learn. Tomkins the players are watching you.'"
Think you'll find there was no charge on any of the incidents that you mention.
You are going a little overboard accusing Tomkins of deliberately injuring players via his tackling technique - a player of his size will automatically tackle round the legs and sometimes the impact as a result may be around the knee joint. Personally believe there was no real intent on Friday and the incident was blown out of all proportion.
Do you want a witchhunt every time a player is injured via a legitimate attempt to complete tackle? In that case what about illegal tackles like Pryce / Wilkin on Grix that caused injury and went unpunished? Or Cunningham punching out at Stosic? Considering Saints offenders got off lightly in both incidents stated, I think there is a certain degree of hypocricy going on!!!
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Exactly he,s already done this kind of tackle that has injured a player to Damien Blanch, Ryan Atkins and Kieron Cunningham. Also unsavoury moments at kicking at the ball when the opposition head is next to the ball, and we have a couple of incidents of kicking out to the face when tackled.
Like I said before if Noble dosn,t teach him to play hard but fair then sooner than later someone will sort him out, the more he keeps on injurying players than the more I want to see him carried off, perhaps this will be the only way he will learn. Tomkins the players are watching you.'"
would you get over this whole kicking the ball away thing.
Everyone does it, he's saved a couple of tries already this season.
There's nothing wrong with that!
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| Quote ="inside_man"would you get over this whole kicking the ball away thing.
Everyone does it, he's saved a couple of tries already this season.
There's nothing wrong with that!'"
There is when a player has already committed to diving for the ball. And he has already been fined for kicking out in a tackle, just missing someone's head at the time (I saw the incident). He came extremely close to Meli's head with his boot on Friday night. People may find that idea funny but if he'd cracked the guy's skull then perhaps he would have been up before the beak for yet again behaving recklessly? Whether intentional or not, certain decisions he makes with regard to tackling need to be modified before he does someone a serious injury. The game is tough enough without players behaving either maliciously or recklessly when tackling.
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| Please dont make me laugh, when you have Cunningham doing all sorts eg nearly taking someones head of in the opening minutes.
He would never crack Mellis head with that wig on.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Exactly he,s already done this kind of tackle that has injured a player to Damien Blanch, Ryan Atkins and Kieron Cunningham. Also unsavoury moments at kicking at the ball when the opposition head is next to the ball, and we have a couple of incidents of kicking out to the face when tackled.
Like I said before if Noble dosn,t teach him to play hard but fair then sooner than later someone will sort him out, the more he keeps on injurying players than the more I want to see him carried off, perhaps this will be the only way he will learn. Tomkins the players are watching you.'"
Did someone teach Kieron Cunningham to play "hard but fair" when he fractured Stosic's eye-socket?
Cunningham's the one to watch. And Pryce if you care for your testicles.
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| Quote ="pedro17"Please dont make me laugh, when you have Cunningham doing all sorts eg nearly taking someones head of in the opening minutes.
He would never crack Mellis head with that wig on.'"
Tomkins has more offences than Cunningham has had in 13 years of Superleague.
He,s only been playing "5 mins in superleague" and is already racked up 2 warning letters, a guilty charge- kicking in the face, £300 fine, refereee dessent report, a yellow card, and conceded 9 penalties.
I,m assuming he,s learn this acceptable Wigoon behaviour courtesy of the Terry Newton School of Gentleman.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Tomkins has more offences than Cunningham has had in 13 years of Superleague.
He,s only been playing "5 mins in superleague" and is already racked up 2 warning letters, a guilty charge- kicking in the face, £300 fine, refereee dessent report, a yellow card, and conceded 9 penalties.
I,m assuming he,s learn this acceptable Wigoon behaviour courtesy of the Terry Newton School of Gentleman.'"
This season alone... Cunningham has had 6 incidents of high tackles or strikes called up AND GOT AWAY WITH THEM.
Tomkins has had 5 calls, one for dissent, the other 4 for possible foul play.
Cunningham has fractured a man's eye socket with a punch to the face WITHOUT PUNISHMENT.
You can try and say Cunningham's the cleaner player, but you'd be wrong.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Tomkins has more offences than Cunningham has had in 13 years of Superleague.
He,s only been playing "5 mins in superleague" and is already racked up 2 warning letters, a guilty charge- kicking in the face, £300 fine, refereee dessent report, a yellow card, and conceded 9 penalties.
I,m assuming he,s learn this acceptable Wigoon behaviour courtesy of the Terry Newton School of Gentleman.'"
you mean Tomkins has been dealt with more.....Cunningham gets away with a lot. How can the RFL say punching someone in the eye isnt deliberatly trying to hurt him its funny its that crazy.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Tomkins has more offences than Cunningham has had in 13 years of Superleague.
He,s only been playing "5 mins in superleague" and is already racked up 2 warning letters, a guilty charge- kicking in the face, £300 fine, refereee dessent report, a yellow card, and conceded 9 penalties.
I,m assuming he,s learn this acceptable Wigoon behaviour courtesy of the Terry Newton School of Gentleman.'"
Tomkins has never been up for a drugs charge though has he?
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