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| Quote ="RB"The Wire board is full of muppets. There are a few people that want to talk sense but the majority just talk crap. Shame really.'" Unfortunately, there are fewer and fewer posters who I would call sensible on there nowadays. I spend more time on TotalRL instead now due to people who must be no more than kids, acting like the fans that annoy us from the likes of Saints, and Wigan during their prime. The difference being we haven't won anything yet.
There is actually grounds for a decent discussion on this subject, as to why people think it is that this game doesn't capture the Wigan fan's imagination.
Many Wigan fans who state they don't care about the crowd are deluding themselves. As RL fans we are obsessed with crowds, and I'm sure Wigan fans would be made up had they sold all of their allocation 3 weeks ago and the game was sold out by now.
Unfortunately, the tone of the first lot of posters (from both sides) mean that a decent discussion just won't happen.
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| Quote ="Jack Kerley"Why are you banging on about free tickets?
Do you know something we don't, or have you got the wrong end of the stick, again?
Go on, tell us all what you know.'" Thousands of free ticket were given away by heinz for the game. Nothing wrong with that, i say well done Wigan and heinz, hope it brought new fans to our game.
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| Quote ="manoa thompsons knees"Thousands of free ticket were given away by heinz for the game. Nothing wrong with that, i say well done Wigan and heinz, hope it brought new fans to our game.'"
A decent wire fan for once.
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| Quote ="Wire_85"So because we are buying tickets for a semi we are fickle? what about the wigan fans who won't go the semi but will go the final? could talk about the 2k we took to Barca.'"
Did they open a temporary benefit office?
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| Seriously people go on about some fans being arrogant but the Wigan fans saying "well it is Wires cup final" as an excuse for not selling all your tickets is the most arrogant and contemptuous statement you could possibly hear.
Yes you do get more fans week in, in wigan athletics stadium and personally i hope you start to sell it out every game (for the good of the game) but to say "we are Wigan, we don't do semi finals" is frankly shocking.
Even if wire get to every semi for the next 30 years we'd always treat it with more respect then 'some' of your 'fans' are at the moment.
If you can't go fair enough but don't spout out Wigan fans are bigger than a semi final.
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| You watch, a week before the semi final......hundreds of wiganers moaning online and in the papers that they cannot get a ticket as it has sold out and it's a disgrace that it's at Widnes and not a bigger ground like the Reebok.
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| Quote ="manoa thompsons knees"Thousands of free ticket were given away by heinz for the game. Nothing wrong with that, i say well done Wigan and heinz, hope it brought new fans to our game.'"
They were not free tickets. They were paid for by Heinz.
Very generous of the company to those members of staff who got them, but a block booking is a block booking, not a free ticket giveaway.
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| Quote ="MattyB"You watch, a week before the semi final......hundreds of wiganers moaning online and in the papers that they cannot get a ticket as it has sold out and it's a disgrace that it's at Widnes and not a bigger ground like the Reebok.
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Wigan fans love to moan.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"They were not free tickets. They were paid for by Heinz.
Very generous of the company to those members of staff who got them, but a block booking is a block booking, not a free ticket giveaway.'" They was free to the thousands of people who went.
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| Quote ="manoa thompsons knees"They was free to the thousands of people who went.'"
Does it matter as long as they were paid for?
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| Quote ="RB"Does it matter as long as they were paid for?'" No, Because thousands of people got in for free, so its all good.
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| Quote ="manoa thompsons knees"No, Because thousands of people got in for free, so its all good.'"
Just wondering if there is a rule against this, and we have been cheating again....
Older posters on this board will remember Malcolm Allison taking over at Manchester City years ago, and giving loads of tickets away to school kids to fill the terraces. That is where a lot of their current loyal fans come from, and now they will be taking their kids and grandkids, f they can afford to. They have probably become latics "fans" now.... hehehehe
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| Quote ="manoa thompsons knees"No, Because thousands of people got in for free, so its all good.'"
By your philosophy, a quarter of most crowds - i.e. the lads whose season tickets are paid for by their dads or grandads - should be classed as freebies as well. So lo and behold, a lot of Warrington's crowd also get in for free.
The Heinz tickets were all paid for. End of.
Your comment is similar to those comments of Latics fans a couple of years ago who couldn't understand why an apparently relegation-doomed Wigan was getting similar crowds to a Premiership football club: "They're giving them away by the bucket load in the town centre. They must be."
That wasn't happening then and it isn't happening now, and people keeping harping on about this are deliberately trying to muddy those very clear waters.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"By your philosophy, a quarter of most crowds - i.e. the lads whose season tickets are paid for by their dads or grandads - should be classed as freebies as well. So lo and behold, a lot of Warrington's crowd also get in for free.
The Heinz tickets were all paid for. End of.
Your comment is similar to those comments of Latics fans a couple of years ago who couldn't understand why an apparently relegation-doomed Wigan was getting similar crowds to a Premiership football club: "They're giving them away by the bucket load in the town centre. They must be."
That wasn't happening then and it isn't happening now, and people keeping harping on about this are deliberately trying to muddy those very clear waters.'" If i give you my ticket for the match, do YOU get a free ticket. Simon Moran pays for coach travel to away games for Warrington fans, i go on this coach and do not pay a pennny did i get free coach travel.Which ever spin you want to put on it the thousands that went with the tickets which was given to them did not pay, so to them they got a free ticket.
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| Quote ="manoa thompsons knees"If i give you my ticket for the match, do YOU get a free ticket. Simon Moran pays for coach travel to away games for Warrington fans, i go on this coach and do not pay a pennny did i get free coach travel.Which ever spin you want to put on it the thousands that went with the tickets which was given to them did not pay, so to them they got a free ticket.'"
But Heinze payed for them, you make no sense.
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| Quote ="manoa thompsons knees"If i give you my ticket for the match, do YOU get a free ticket. Simon Moran pays for coach travel to away games for Warrington fans, i go on this coach and do not pay a pennny did i get free coach travel.Which ever spin you want to put on it the thousands that went with the tickets which was given to them did not pay, so to them they got a free ticket.'"
The tickets were still paid for, so they were NOT free. And this is not just semantics. Someone pays for a service, so it isn't free. It doesn't matter who the recipient of the service is.
But it doesn't surprise me that a Wire fan is unwilling to grasp this basic truth when it concerns Wigan.
You know perfectly well that to say a club generates a big crowd by giving away tickets free has always had negative connotations - regardless of whether it's smart thinking - because it implies that the club can't get anyone to pay to watch them, and is therefore prepared to sustain a financial loss just to make things look good.
That is certainly what some of your fellow Wire posters have been trying to imply about last Friday night.
But in the case of last Friday night, those tickets WERE paid for. Therefore the club was not giving away tickets free, and was not making a loss - somebody was ready and willing to fork out a lot of money to go and watch Wigan play. And that's all that really matters.
It doesn't matter whose butts were planted on the seats. The privilege was paid for in every case.
And as we're now going round in painful circles, that's my final word on the matter.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"The tickets were still paid for, so they were NOT free. And this is not just semantics. Someone pays for a service, so it isn't free. It doesn't matter who the recipient of the service is.
But it doesn't surprise me that a Wire fan is unwilling to grasp this basic truth when it concerns Wigan.
You know perfectly well that to say a club generates a big crowd by giving away tickets free has always had negative connotations - regardless of whether it's smart thinking - because it implies that the club can't get anyone to pay to watch them, and is therefore prepared to sustain a financial loss just to make things look good.
That is certainly what some of your fellow Wire posters have been trying to imply about last Friday night.
But in the case of last Friday night, those tickets WERE paid for. Therefore the club was not giving away tickets free, and was not making a loss - somebody was ready and willing to fork out a lot of money to go and watch Wigan play. And that's all that really matters.
It doesn't matter whose butts were planted on the seats. The privilege was paid for in every case.
And as we're now going round in painful circles, that's my final word on the matter.'"
If that does not do it Cruncher I do not know what will.
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| Heinz payed Wigan for the tickets and gave them away, so the people who received these tickets got in the game for free, it doesnt matter who payed for the tickets they still got free tickets. By you logic nothing can be free.
P.S Did i get a free coach or was it not free to me
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| Quote ="manoa thompsons knees"If i give you my ticket for the match, do YOU get a free ticket. Simon Moran pays for coach travel to away games for Warrington fans, i go on this coach and do not pay a pennny did i get free coach travel.Which ever spin you want to put on it the thousands that went with the tickets which was given to them did not pay, so to them they got a free ticket.'"
i have bought 2 tickets for the semi , but my mate cant go, so i have given it to my stepson for free. therefore he has got a "free ticket" to the semi.But the club has been paid for the ticket.
see how it works yet?
if the club has received money for the ticket it cant be free even if the actual person attending hasnt paid a penny
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| Quote ="roo67"i have bought 2 tickets for the semi , but my mate cant go, so i have given it to my stepson for free. therefore he has got a "free ticket" to the semi.But the club has been paid for the ticket.
see how it works yet?
if the club has received money for the ticket it cant be free even if the actual person attending hasnt paid a penny'" The ticket cost you, not your stepson, so your stepson got a free ticket, which means he payed Nothing and was given a ticket.
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| Quote ="manoa thompsons knees"The ticket cost you, not your stepson, so your stepson got a free ticket, which means he payed Nothing and was given a ticket.'"
But the "ticket" was NOT free. It was paid for.
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| Oh dear. This is just silly now.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"But the "ticket" was NOT free. It was paid for.'"
Exactly money went to the club instead of giving away free tickets like latics do every game.
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| Quote ="manoa thompsons knees"The ticket cost you, not your stepson, so your stepson got a free ticket, which means he payed Nothing and was given a ticket.'"
Yeah, so what's your point?
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| Quote ="manoa thompsons knees"The ticket cost you, not your stepson, so your stepson got a free ticket, which means he payed Nothing and was given a ticket.'"
give up now, your making yourself look like an idiot
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