And the fact that, as far as I'm aware from my 10 minutes of searches, you cannot purchase Esterom in Uk stores, as it is currently only available in America?

He was a great talent, but he's been stupid and has thrown that all away.
I don't think that he should be allowed to play again.

The Titanic has just left Southampton.

mine gets taken off and yet stuff like this, which is more or less saying the same thing is ok?

All I said is that I'm sure Wigan RL isn't the only club in both cosdes where things like this go on.

Better than all the doom and gloom. Why not focus on the positives? Sorry if i'm not feeling self pity.

I look to the future.

I meant within a period of a few days - go to every clubs training ground unannounced and do a job lot. The current testing system is random i.e. pick a few players each week spread over the league.

That, my friend, is not news

Stop talking drivel.

The problem was what you quoted.

<REMOVED> Libellous

2 year ban coming up as its WADSA that govern drugs bans so wouldnt think he will get more but dont think he should ever pull on a cherry and white shirt again IF found guilty.

To be fair mate its rife, in St.Helens as well. Some of my old friends think i'm strange for not doing it

I want him sacked also as he'd kicked us whilst we are majorly down.

BUT

What happens when his ban is up?

Why should Wigan be penalised by watching one of its best talents sign for someone else and receive nothing for it?

We’ve coached him, we’ve paid his wages and we’ve got him on a long deal so why through no fault of our own is it we come out the worst in this situation?

Can we keep his registration like clubs did with the likes of Pryce, Harris and Tansey?

At the end of the day he's been caught doing something alot of people knew he was doing and it comes as no suprise. He'll get the ban he deserves and as big a loss as it is to Wigan and rugby league in general i'm glad.

The club needs to sort out the deep rooted problems thats killing it and one of these is that theres a complete lack of discipline and professionalisim from the players.

This should serve as a warning to the rest of them and hopefully some good can come from it.

On the downside we've lost our best player and short term thats really bad but on the plus side maybe it'll teach a few lessons to some of our other arrogant over paid, over pampered pri*ks!!!

Get out your arm chair and see for yourself. Get real. Infact, on King St it could well be higher.

stop living in 1997.

has happened. a certain colonel loving number 9 had a spot of bother.

I'm not suggesting it isn't a problem but to say 65% are on it when out on a Saturday night is just bollox.

Hardly. get real and get out round King St.

Anyone who goes out often will know.

Its the same thing David Allen was banned 2 years for, ruined his career, he's a fool.

Are the players told in advance that the drug tests are going to take place or is it completely sprung on them?

Go out with a clipboard do you?



I doubt anyone would say it wasn't a problem, but to start quoting %s is just silly.

Its the same thing David Allen was banned 2 years for, ruined his career, he's a fool.

Well the anti doping or whoever does these tests need to get smart.

there are rumours of drug abuse, so lets warn them we're coming to test them. Sounds like a great plan

They should just turn up, unannounced after training, a match, even the players house on a sunday morning and say i want a sample now.

i'm not disagreeing the players make sure they are clean when the tests come around. So the system is failing and need overhauling obviously.

Like i said the testers should be able to turn up, without warning, anywhere they choose to catch these players.

Lets' hope he gets aid from the person who assisted a certain Mr Lawrence Dallaglio a few years back.

Shows the club is rotten to the core and has been for quite a few years now.