Orr
Bosc
Sherwin
Dobson
Burrow
Myler
Brough

All are better than Long.

When watching him in the cup game against Catalans he was pretty shocking and still got MOM, he is a player based on reputation of which I am the first to admit is a terrific one but whenever he does anything half decent he gets more credit for it because of his reputation. I personally would rather have Burrow than Long at 7 for England. For us I would have neither I would go all out to get Orford, Thurston or Lockyer.

Dont talk stupid. Anyone with any RL knowledge knows Long is still the best, followed by Dobson, Myler's played half a season in SL and showed glimpses that he's going to be a good number 7. Leuluai is a decent, dangerous 7, but organisation wise, and genuine natural talent he doesn't come close to Long.

Sorry i must have missed Long ripping SL up this year????

He was once a good player but at this moment in time Dobson & Myler are in better form than him

Remind me who is top of Super League?? Myler has shown glimpses, but not enough for people to start saying "sign him", and would you really want to run with 2 very young half backs next season? Long is proven SL class, Why you are mentioning Dobson, I really dont know, what you makes you think he'd leave Hull KR? Long would be perfect for 2 years, everyone knows it, nobody wants to admit it. Form is tempory, class is permanent.

Dickie he aint been half the player this season - dobson is well ahead of him

Long is not the best anymore at all although he was for a very long time.

Dobson can organise a team just as well, he also has a better kicking game atm, he is far quicker than long, from what I have seen this season his hands are much better, Long has thrown our many poor balls.

Dobson is a much better player than Long IMO.

Myler from what I have seen has outplayed Long this season, on the attacking side of things and creativity, maybe not organisation but he is still young.

I bet Saints sign Myler to replace Long in 18 months time.

But Long is available, I dont know why you keep mentioning Dobson, fair enough he's a good player but he's happy were he is. Long is a born, proven winner. He's naturally a quality RL player, Long would improve our team by a mile, we havn't got an organiser at all, nor have we got a player who is capable of breaking the line. Like I have just read on the Saints site, do you think we would have had all them sets on Warrington's line without scoring if we had Long? He's lost a bit of pace, thats it. He's still capable of ripping defence's apart, and you can say what you like about him, he'd love to play for his home town club, he's a Wigan lad.

Im mentioning Dobson because you said Long was the best 7 in super league, but he is not anymore, Dobson is. Long would be a step up I agree but we could have a bigger one signing afew other players, players who are also available.

In your opinion he is. Personally I dont think he can open up defences like Long can.

Your correct, Long would be a step up, and a big one, costing us half the price of someone like Thurston, Lockyer...or any other Aussies Wigan fans are dreaming of signing.

If Dobson is THAT good, why is playing in SL at such a young age, if he was THAT good, an australian club wouldn't let him go so young.

just because he aint good enough for oz doesnt mean he aint the best in SL - further proof how far behind we are the aussies

But nobody's even asked him to go back, he couldn't even get in the Canberra team, IMO he's miles behind Long, still.

well thats opinion even though its pap

I didnt even reply to it. Ridiculous post.

What you laughing at?

Steve McCormack said he was taking the Best Half Back in the World to the World Cup in Danny Brough!
That's good enough for me!

We agree on something

Orr, Brough and Sherwin beter than Long

The best scrum half in superleague is Dobson but after that Long is right up there.

My top 5 about at the moment would probably be-

Dobson
Myler(will be head and shoulders the best in time)
Long
Burrow
Leuluai

Leuluai.



He wouldn't get in most teams. Let's face it.

More worrying is the fact that he's one of the most consistant players this year !!!!!!!............what does that say about the rest

Except he didn't turn his back on Wigan. Wigan got rid of him to Widnes and we picked him up from Widnes. I'm sure that originally what he wanted was to play for his home town club.


Well, you need to blame your recruitment staff from way back when because they were the ones who ditched him and allowed him to help make us a top side (he didn't do it singlehandedly you know). He's been very welcome at Saints and continues to be so as long as he puts in the effort. His form and/or attitude has been really bad this season until the last game, strangely enough (after he'd just said his piece to the press), when although he wasn't at his best by any stretch of the imagination, he was a damn sight better than he has been all season.

I wouldn't mind him staying with us another year. I think he has a year left in him. I don't think he has two and I hope the club don't offer him two. If he gets stubborn and stays with two then I would rather either recruit from elsewhere or have one of our young talents take his place. But that's not to say he doesn't still have the ability to tear up the opposition because he does; we just don't see it as often as we used to. He's been an amazing player. It's a shame people have to grow older.

What has that got to do with anything???????

I guess Trent wasn't the best 6 in SL last year cause we were never top of the league? If you’re top of the league then you must be the best player in SL in your chosen position according to your logic?



This isn’t about whom or I want to sign or not. My op was in response to you saying Long was currently the best 7 in SL which I’d love to know what you base that on. Dobson currently is the best 7 in SL at this moment in time. It’s not about what he’s done in the past or if he’s failed in the NRL or played x amount of games all it comes down to is that Dobson is arguably in the form of his life and is heads and shoulders above the rest of the 7’s in SL.



Believe it or not I’m one of the few who agree with you on this one. Check my post history and you’ll see I made a post about signing Long next season about 2 months ago. He ticks all the boxes as you say-

He’d be relatively cheap compared to Orford & Barrett etc,
He’s a local lad so none quota,
He’s got the kicking game we need currently
He’s been around a winning side most of his professional life
He knows a lot of the current squad
And he could be that guy to give Tomkins that extra swagger needed.

BUT in no way am I having it that he’s the best 7 currently in SL.

He would because superleague is average.

He's a better hooker but still one of the more dangerous halfbacks in superleague.