All of those games are winnable if Wigan are on form. It's a golden opportunity for Noble to nail himself to the club for another contract.

See what position we are in at the end of the year.

Didn't purposely come on here for 3/4 days after game becuase I knew this Tripe would be on almost Word for Word!

It's getting Boring Now

Yearly Statistics
Year Pos Pld W L D F A Avg. Att. Pts
2009 9 13 6 7 0 320 267 16,435 12
2008 4 27 13 11 3 648 698 14,505 29
2007 6 27 15 11 1 621 527 16,040 27
2006 8 28 12 16 0 644 715 14,465 22
2005 7 28 14 14 0 698 718 13,892 28
2004 4 28 17 7 4 736 558 12,650 38
2003 3 28 19 7 2 776 512 10,252 40
2002 3 28 19 8 1 817 475 10,439 39
2001 2 28 22 5 1 989 494 11,463 45
2000 1 28 24 3 1 960 405 10,536 49


So what Your saying is that finishing 3rd 2 x seasons in a row in Play offs after not even making them for 2 x seasons is No Improvement?

Finishing 6th 2007 then 4th in league 2008 is not an improvement on finishing 8th & 7th 2 x previous seasons?

Yes I do know the Salary Cap problems aren't reflected in there, but Facts are Facts Dave!

CC - Losing in qtrs to a Reigning SL Champions away from home is worse than losing in Semi's to a team that finished bottom year before on a Neutral ground!

A Worse win/loss ratio in 2008 than 2007 but only because of 2 x draws! Clutching at straws here aren't you Dave but then again it's still better than 2006 when we won less, and 11 of those 12 came after Noble took after!

Points difference is worse! God Almighty DaveO, Now were scraping the Barrell to prove a point again!
But again it's better than your favourite team of 2006 managed!

What's next? Are you going to compare knock on's per season, metres made or Offloads!

As for being entertained throughout the season rather than just the play off's, Don't disagree totally but would you take entertaining/losing rugby?
I know your next reply, well we've been watching boring/losing rugby blah blah blah! But you know what?
It's better than the 2005 & 2006!
The Stats prove it Dave!
Look above!

Oh Sorry, Your Word is Fact!

PS

I don't believe much of the above Stat rubbish either Dave, I just Know from what I see with my own eyes that were a Better "Team" than we have been for 4/5 seasons, it may take a bit of patience & time to see the consistancy & confidence grow but I think it will come.
Will Noble be in charge for the next 18 months +, I don't know??

But one things for sure, your constant Noble Bashing is not fooling many! Maybe the Quick fix brigade but not many!

And before JonH replies I'm not saying he should be here next season either, just that constant Regurgitation of "DavO's Facts" is absolute tripe and there for one thing only!
For DaveO to prove himself right again so he can sleep at night in his own little Omnipotent World!

Agreed.

I think the next 3 games in particular and the Hull KR away game are the key performance indicators for Ian Lenigan.

Although given the form of Wakefield at the moment a loss to them in the Cup would be pretty disasterous.

Wow, talk about a turnaround in attitudes!

Just goes to show how important performing in the derby is. You're still not in a play-ff place, despite having played 1 more game than all above you (2 more than Quins) but suddenly Noble is doing a good job.



A win over the auld enemy certainly does wonders for confidence though and I can see you lot going on a decent run now, starting at Wakefield in the cup.

And a Cup win plus 5 wins from the next 7 would be an excellent return.

That would leave us needing to win only 3 of the next 7 and 1 more cup game to show an improvement on previous season which should just about convince DaveO not to take out a "Hit" on Noble should IL give him a new contract!

Oh, and as long as we have a better points difference and average crowd and sell more merchandise and the Official website takes more hits and Season tickets come down in price and we resign Mickey Higham!

All of the above should just about do it for Him!

Brett have you noticed that you sit outside the top 8 having played 1 or 2 more games than the rest of the comp and have lost more games than you have won???Its no good just jockying for position if you come 6,7,or 8th becaue you havent got a realistic chance of winning the grand final.If that is moving forward and improving ,,well good for you!!

Aww ... still a bit cheesed off. Never mind.

No, the same people who think Noble was alright before think he is alright Now!

The ones who hated him before still hate him!

But that one stop you spouting your usual Wigan fans do a turnaround B011ox will it!

PS

Your point is what???

We are 4 ponts closer to you than we were 2 x weeks ago and Longy/Wellens/KFC/Gidley are 2 weeks nearer to pension day!

And losing 2 x grand finals in 2007/2008 is worse than winning it in 2006!

Doing it from Top Spot didn't exactly Help you out either did it!

Yet your still trying to do it with the same clapped out Geriatrics!

Yes still cheesed off,we have just lost a derby.But everyteam will have blips this season we are having ours and still sit top of the comp not 9th that is the difference

The difference is that the previous time we played, you were lucky to win. This time you were lucky not to lose 38-0.

You really came on here to remind us that we're crap. But if I were you, I'd get used to people reminding you that you're crap. On your last few performances, it won't be too far off that being a regular event.

Yikes, those stats seem to show when using the league points as a basis that Wigan have got worse from 2000 year on year to mid-2006. They have only started improving in 2007, looking at the 2006 season the league points started to get better err, well, when Noble got the job.

League placing also bears this out, 2006 the lowest point and subsiquent years better than this.

However statistically speaking Wigan are not as good now as they were during the 90's.... Oh, and since Phil Clarke started doing it pundit job on sky in 1999 Wigan have got worse.

Any more silly stats?

The key to a new contract is consistancy without doubt.

We've played well in fits and starts for all the time Noble has been incharge but we've not had a good consistant run since the back end of his first season and that needs to change imo.

The run of fixtures coming up gives us a good opportunity to find some consistant form. I'm not saying we have to win them all but i'd like to see us take the majority of them and just look like we want to play for them all and not be half hearted.

isn't the average attendance around 13k?

I have one thing to say to DaveO and Jonh. Well 3 things actually.

Do you still believe Noble can only coach 5 drives and a kick? Do you still believe Noble cannot coach entertaining rugby? Do you still believe he has no idea how to coach attacking rugby?

They were the crux of your past arguments re.Noble. Jonh sat for hours typing post after post about how Noble was a very limited coach who could not coach anything but a simple 5 drives and a kick. All that technical jargon you typed and paragraphs of drivel about how you knew better was a waste of your life that you will never get back.

1 swallow does not make a summer

You'll have to ask DaveO!

Geez calm down fella!





That performing in the derby game doesn't half get fans on side and breed confidence.



Yep you're 4 points closer to the pensioners - another couple of wins and you might even be in a play-off spot



Seriously though, my point was just that Noble has done wonders for his prospects of being long term Wigan coach with that performance, but it needs to be backed up oin the weeks to come or it will soon be forgotten as an isolated good performance surrounded by a sea of poor ones (which has been the story of his tenure to date).

Good to have the derby alive and kicking in 2009 though, can't wait for the next one

It really is funny how after 1 good performance you surface have a pop and then vanish when it all goes wrong. Where have you been for the last few weeks since the Bradford game.

From the evidence of this season i am not convinved no, is the answer to your question on all 3 counts, maybe occasionally he sends us out with the right game plan but the evidence of us being 9th with a game extra played over most other teams is hardly testament to his coaching this season.

RHJ i will turn it on you see where you stand on this, do you still think that all the players are useless and poor players?

Sadly it seems from your cameo posts after 1 good performance its all very black and white to you, others are quick to criticise poor coaching of which there has been plenty but also happy to praise it and Noble off the back of such performances as we saw on Saturday. Its called a balanced view rather than hiding for weeks on end then slating those who do not share your opinion once in a blue moon.

Its exactly the same reaction we have after every one off performance on here, see the reaction to the Bradford game.

We must back it up starting at Wakefield but the real test will come against Hull KR and Wire of just where we stand. Hull KR a "new" team to SL in real terms who are bridging the gap on the top 2 and Wire who after a change of coach may start to show the promise they clearly have.

This is true. We have played you lot twice this year, and been outplayed twice.

In the Easter game, we were lucky our defence stood strong, because it could have been another whitewash. Against a better team last week, we would have had 50 past us. We were lucky not to get nilled this week by you lot. There are a lot of cracks forming, we will find it hard to turn around that level of performance by this weekend, so will be out of the cup; then another trip to France which is a traditional defeat for us.

I am so happy for you, maybe that was it, Stains got beat purposely so that their fans could enjoy Derby Games again!

Maybe that's why they lost the last 2 x GF's? If it was then thanks for that!

I wondered why the greatestest ever team in Sooper Dooper League ever in the whole wide world had lost and now I know why!
You did it for us!

Thank You!

PS

You didn't enjoy it did you! Your just consoling yourself in whichever way possible to make it feel as though it wasn't as bad as it looked!

PPS

It was!

Ive been on here i have not disappeared at all.



So you still think he cannot coach attacking rugby? Yes you have just proved your a moron congratulations.



I do not think the team on paper is as good as people make out no.




You dont have a balanced view though do you? Your view is that Noble is a poor coach and you know better and he won things at Bradford just by luck and that he cannot coach anything other than 5 drives and a kick.

Are you not going to admit that Noble can coach attacking rugby? I take it you think Saturdays game was boring 5 drives and a kick?