Really happy with this. They’re both in need of the challenge and hopefully they will get plenty of game time.

My only reservation is if they are being expected to line up as front line forwards, particularly Kilner in a team that is getting a hiding each week.

They are both top prospects and expecting them to take on the workload of a seasoned pro in a struggling team may do more harm than good.

I’m sure the club have discussed role and workload as part of the move though and on the face of it a cracking life experience for the pair of them too.

Who will be paying their wages as i thought i read that Toronto were up to the limit on the salary cap or do loans of junior players not count?.

In fairness to them they’re sticking in games and haven’t been too far off. I don’t think they’ll go there and be expected to whack out 80 minutes. The chance for them to play alongside Sonny Bill must be exciting and it will hopefully prove a great experience for them.

With all these loan signings, not only by Wigan, what is the point of having a Reserve League.

Its now getting as bad as Football!

Really don't see the problem. 2 lads with bags of potential move to a side playing Super League and you don't like it. Players like George Burgess who need match fitness can get the required game time in the reserves before transitioning back into the first team. It's win win all around

Or not even playing reserves like last week?

From what I have seen of Toronto so far, the only good experience Kilner and Wells being forwards are going to get is plenty of practice in tackling as the squad of the club with the exception is not much different than it was in last season's Championship apart from Sonny Bill Williams.

Been better for them to go clubs like Hull KR, Salford, Wakefield or even Featherstone, Leigh or Widnes in the Championship

They’re not getting a hiding at all, they’re competing and don’t look too far off IMO. A hiding is getting 40-60 put on them every week, they look every bit a team that will pick up results along the season.

Come on, the Toronto squad with the exception of two or three players or so is hardly any better than many of the lower clubs of the Super League or the top clubs of the Championship.

Unless, Toronto sign more better players than cast offs of our clubs, they will continue to make no big impact in our game which has already been proved by the poor crowds they so far have attracted at games here.

In the games so far, our clubs, including Wigan should have scored far more points than they did!

Kilner didn’t play but Wells got last 20 mins and put himself about , defence was solid and took a couple of hit ups . He looked a big unit compared to the rest of the Wolfpack

Their discipline makes ours look good

Admittedly I wasn't giving it my full attention as was cooking but from what I saw Wells looked impressive again in a well beaten Toronto team I thought. 9 metres average gain and took his try very well. How good to have all these exciting forward prospects.

I get the impression that Wells is making the most of his opportunity. Several posters on other sites have mentioned that although he has not had big minutes he is embarrassing some of his older and much more expensive team mates. We could end up with a bit of a problem in the forwards trying to find space for all of the youngsters.

I’d like to see Wells do a month or two with Toronto and then get him back here to fight for a spot. He’s a guy I’m convinced can make a big impact here and we’re short of competition in the second row, especially on that right side and with Greenwood not in Lams plans by the looks of things, I think he could really kick on here.

Has greenwood played the last couple of weeks for Leeds?

No he can’t get in their team.

Wonder if he will feature for the Leeds reserves v Wigan today.

How ironic he went there for game time yet his 1st game could be in the reserve fixture he would have played for us in

Speaking of back-rowers, who was the tall lad playing 12 against Leeds in the U18 game who was dancing through their defence?

I saw the highlights the other day and wondered the same. He was walking through them. Checked the team sheets and he was called Jack Taylor I think (certainly Taylor but think his first name was Jack).

Matty Nickleson played for the 18s big back rower real prospect pace great hands

Ta! Looked a confident lad, didn't he?

Looked ruddy massive. As pointed out above, I believe the other second rower (Nicholson) is really highly thought of as well. Add to those two to the older lads like Pearce-Paul, Shorrocks, Rushton and McDonnell and tag in the first team lads Smithies and Wells and we’re set fair now for a long while.

We (probably) can't keep them all, but all those lads show real promise.

Sad reality unfortunately. There’s some cracking lads we let go who go on to thrive at other clubs, Hampshire being one recent example. I’m sure there’s many more but the tiredness of chasing after a puppy all day is clouding my memory