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| That was never forward !
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| But the pass to Tuqiri clearly went backwards.
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| We're simply awful at the basics of the game but Archer has been a disgrace.
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| Without the mistakes we'd be right in this
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| Got to say that we have made far to many errors - That is why we are struggling BUT the ref and VR have been an absoulte joke which has contributed to the loss of momentum and confidence - A definite reason why the officials MUST be neutral if Ive ever seen one !
James Roby is the standout English player. He is tackling about 5 stone above his weight.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"We're simply awful at the basics of the game but Archer has been a disgrace.'"
Same old same old. Pings us for a forward, which probably was but it was a 50/50 call. Then Tequiri goes all quarterback a couple of plays later and suddenly Archer and his linemen are looking elsewhere.
Basic errors are killing us they always do, but when we can't catch a break from the man in the middle a massive task becomes an impossible one.
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| This Aussie team are more than beatable. NZ for the Four Nations this year if we don't win today.
Far, far too many errors and its completely shot us of confidence. Also, Atkins needs to be dropped - his defence is just shocking.
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| Well that was the usual from England in terms of what we can control. The basics of the game just aren't good enough and thats because in superleag they don't have to be to get a win most weeks.
The 2 incidents that really summed it up for me where Briscoe bombing an easy catch in the corner that Pat Richards could have taken with his leg cast on and one arm tied behind his back and the other was Roby going without the ball from dummy half! He's a fine athlete and a top player but in conditions like those you can't be doing that.
On a side note i've not seen a player look quite out of his depth as much as Cudjoe has in this first half. He seems to be half asleep at times and I presume thats down to nerves. In fairness to him he's never a centre in a million years and to be asked to play there on your test debut is probably a little unfair.
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| Backs are the liability here... forwards are not doing too bad IMO. We putting the big hits in and making ground.
Not one of the backs has managed to contribute anything
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| Quote ="jonh"Same old same old. Pings us for a forward, which probably was but it was a 50/50 call. Then Tequiri goes all quarterback a couple of plays later and suddenly Archer and his linemen are looking elsewhere.
Basic errors are killing us they always do, but when we can't catch a break from the man in the middle a massive task becomes an impossible one.'"
Until something is done about the reffing it's tough to take the international game seriously.
I'm not sure but I presume there aren't any kiwi refs in the NRL and if that is the case why so? We have Alibert in superleague and he should be reffing this game if the Aussies can't provide a top line alternative that isn't Australian.
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| Sorry but Lockers is struggling at 6. His defensive decisions have been pretty poor for 3 of the Aussie tries, albeit in a defensive line that was attempting to slide and brolen play. He hasn't done much with the ball in hand either....Not an International 6 Mcbannana !
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| Every single 50/50 has gone the Aussies' way.
We haven't helped ourselves with the mistakes though.
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| Quote ="Gary High"Sorry but Lockers is struggling at 6. His defensive decisions have been pretty poor for 3 of the Aussie tries, albeit in a defensive line that was attempting to slide and brolen play. He hasn't done much with the ball in hand either....Not an International 6 Mcbannana !'"
He'll be a scapegoat no doubt but to be fair he's having to try and defend 2 positions because Cudjoe looks like he's forgot he's on a rugby field.
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| In Mcbannanas defence, you can't coach against knocking the ball on Under 8's style 5 or 6 times. Our gameplan seemed to be a good one and we had the Aussies on the ropes until that ridiculous VR decision.
All the Aussies have done is punish our errors and score 2 'non' tries.
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| Quote ="Gary High"Sorry but Lockers is struggling at 6. His defensive decisions have been pretty poor for 3 of the Aussie tries, albeit in a defensive line that was attempting to slide and brolen play. He hasn't done much with the ball in hand either....Not an International 6 Mcbannana !'"
Worst half I have ever seen from him at this level and its his defence that is letting him down.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"On a side note i've not seen a player look quite out of his depth as much as Cudjoe has in this first half. He seems to be half asleep at times and I presume thats down to nerves. In fairness to him he's never a centre in a million years and to be asked to play there on your test debut is probably a little unfair.'"
Have to agree, Cudjoe was completely out of his depth in the first half. When the Aussie's attack he's flying out of the defensive line leaving huge gaps and when he receives the ball in attacking areas there's a look of total panic on his face. Poor decision by McNamara to play him at centre, poor decision that someone like Gleeson wasn't included in the squad.
Shocking amount of 50/50 decisions that have gone to the Aussie's but that shouldn't be used as an excuse for the poor 25 minutes in the 1st half.
Get in there, Robbo !!
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| Atkins is braindead.
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| Archer your a cheat.
Time to knock internationals on the head until this reffing gets sorted.
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| Yet another stinker of a decision by the officials!!
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| Bl**dy hell how far forward was that for the Aussie try. Never should have been given. Clarke was right they have been given points galore.
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| Agree with both your last 2 posts Nicky.
Why continue to run towards the sideline?
Forward pass, and now a penalty for nothing. Shocking, he was an awful ref in the Kiwi game as well.
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| Another decision goes to the Aussie's, surely he just knocked that on. No wonder the international game is regarded as a joke. Not a funny one either.
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| This is a joke now. A shame because it could have been a cracking game this !
In SL that would have been a knock on !
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| We look knackered now
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| So now it appears you can take the tap then change your mind, I give up!
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