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| At this stage I'm more interested in who will be in charge in 2020.
Could Lam step up? Not had the best of starts but all this could be rectified if he turns the season around. Second issue with Lam; does he want the position long term? Even if he has a good 2019, doesn't mean he sees himself at Wigan long term.
So who else is suitable? I thought about Trent Barrett, but supposedly he's going to be offered a position in the NSW backroom staff.
Any shouts?
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| I hope Lam turns it round but I’m not sure he’s planning to stay even if he does. Assuming he does go, we’re looking at 5 categories of coach.
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Personally I think at this point the club should be looking to bring in a proven Australian. I’m not sure the likes of Watson and Chester could cut it at Wigan and Powell is one of those where I think he is a great fit for Cas but probably not Wigan. I wouldn’t be entirely against enquiring about Tony Smith and bring in a defensive coach to work with him. A mature respected head is needed IMO.
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| Quote ="Orrell Lad"I hope Lam turns it round but I’m not sure he’s planning to stay even if he does. Assuming he does go, we’re looking at 5 categories of coach.
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Personally I think at this point the club should be looking to bring in a proven Australian. I’m not sure the likes of Watson and Chester could cut it at Wigan and Powell is one of those where I think he is a great fit for Cas but probably not Wigan. I wouldn’t be entirely against enquiring about Tony Smith and bring in a defensive coach to work with him. A mature respected head is needed IMO.'"
I like the idea of a coach who can attract NRL names. I'd like us to use the marquee on 'marquee' players to strengthen our squad. I would/am interested in Barrett, depending on his situation.
I wonder how people would feel if we reappointed Shaun Wane?
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| Can't see Trent coming over, simply down to the fact he left us first time around due to being 'homesick'.
Shane Flanagan is probably the standout coach available imo.
Yes there's baggage there, but he's not getting an NRL gig anytime soon and has decent pedigree as a coach too. It could do him the world of good to get away for a couple of seasons, let the heat die down & rebuild his rep.
I wouldn't be adverse to him bringing Gallen over for 12 months too, although reading his recent comments about his retirement plans that doesn't seem likely.
TL into the coaching staff too, simply because this was part of the deal he signed - although I might be wrong.
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| I wonder what people would think if Lockers got the job?
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| I doubt that an established name would come over or that the club could afford him,Powell is my choice but again I doubt it’d happen so for me I’d take a chance on Watson,like it or not Wigan are selling club with a very limited budget and he’s done wonders there on next to nothing.
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| I think, at the very least, once we've officially dispensed with Shaun Edwards, we ought to offer Lam the gig on something like a 3-year deal on a condition that he can turn things around.
It would be very difficult if the guy actually wanted the job and then was expected to carry on through 2019 while we openly looked for someone else.
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| Quote ="sergeant pepper"Can't see Trent coming over, simply down to the fact he left us first time around due to being 'homesick'.
Shane Flanagan is probably the standout coach available imo.
Yes there's baggage there, but he's not getting an NRL gig anytime soon and has decent pedigree as a coach too. It could do him the world of good to get away for a couple of seasons, let the heat die down & rebuild his rep.
I wouldn't be adverse to him bringing Gallen over for 12 months too, although reading his recent comments about his retirement plans that doesn't seem likely.
TL into the coaching staff too, simply because this was part of the deal he signed - although I might be wrong.'"
Apart from his salary cap issues I do rate Flanagan. Great relationship with his players turning them into a NRL GF winning team.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"I wonder what people would think if Lockers got the job?'"
This would be the worst option IMO. Let him serve an apprenticeship, preferably elsewhere, rather than be thrust into it too soon here and tarnish his legacy as KFC did at Saints.
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| Quote ="Orrell Lad"Tony Smith '"
Please, NO. Id rather have Eric Hughes return.
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| Jason Demetriou anyone?
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| Quote ="RichieS"Jason Demetriou anyone?'"
Is he the number 2 at Souths?
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| I’d look no further than Adrian Lam. I’m still confident that once his philosophy is transferred from the training ground and onto the game day, he can take us to success. Add a couple of players who he trusts to deliver his style of play and we’ll be fine.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Apart from his salary cap issues I do rate Flanagan. Great relationship with his players turning them into a NRL GF winning team.'"
Seems to me to be the most straightforward option. Ticks all the boxes of a top coach, he's currently unemployed & as far as the NRL goes he will be for several years.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Is he the number 2 at Souths?'"
Yes that's correct, his coaching record in Queensland cup was outstanding. We may well benefit from having him for a couple of years before he gets an NRL job and he is more than used to UK life. However, I really do like the sound of Flanagan, he is a top notch coach!
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| Quote ="RichieS"Yes that's correct, his coaching record in Queensland cup was outstanding. We may well benefit from having him for a couple of years before he gets an NRL job and he is more than used to UK life. However, I really do like the sound of Flanagan, he is a top notch coach!'"
Could be a good outside shout.
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| Quote ="RichieS"Yes that's correct, his coaching record in Queensland cup was outstanding. We may well benefit from having him for a couple of years before he gets an NRL job and he is more than used to UK life. However, I really do like the sound of Flanagan, he is a top notch coach!'"
Flanagan has now been implicated in Cronulla's salary cap breach. Not an ideal candidate for a job at Wigan really.
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| Quote ="Pemps"Flanagan has now been implicated in Cronulla's salary cap breach. Not an ideal candidate for a job at Wigan really.'"
Surly he's innocent until proven guilty and even then his punishment is to be banned from the NRL and not the global game?
Is cheating the cap worse than say what ZH did or any of the other indiscretions we've seen over the years from players?
It's simply rectified anyway by saying he'd have zero involvement in contract negotiations - funnily enough if you read his comments in the press over the weekend he's said he didn't anyway.
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| Quote ="RichieS"Jason Demetriou anyone?'"
He was my first choice for this year. It all depends on what Lam wants to do IMO, he probably deserves a chance to get things sorted his way.
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| Quote ="sergeant pepper"Surly he's innocent until proven guilty and even then his punishment is to be banned from the NRL and not the global game?
Is cheating the cap worse than say what ZH did or any of the other indiscretions we've seen over the years from players?
It's simply rectified anyway by saying he'd have zero involvement in contract negotiations - funnily enough if you read his comments in the press over the weekend he's said he didn't anyway.'"
More a tongue in cheek comment in relation to our recent salary cap issue and past indiscretions.
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| I think Lam needs to be given the job. He has come in here with his hands tied and i very much doubt was given much in the way of bringing players in but i am led to believe that he took the job on the proviso that he could bring 2 NRL players over. Don't know how much truth is in that. Forget Edwards. Flanagan, top quality for sure but i think we have had more than our fair share of bad press and controversy over the last few years. We need a clean slate. Demetriou is a very good shout./ He was very highly rated even before he went back to Oz but if Lam wants it i would give it to him. Let him get some stability and then at least the players know they can't mess him around thinking he will be gone after a season. He has NRL experience, will have contacts, knows the club. All the ingredients are there, we just need to give him the tools to get the pie put together.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Apart from his salary cap issues I do rate Flanagan. Great relationship with his players turning them into a NRL GF winning team.'"
If he brings his physicians case and syringes with him he can bulk up our players too, two birds one stone...
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| Unless Lenagan sells up I cannot see it but Shaun Wane would be my number one choice. His stock can only have risen this year when you think what he dragged out of some of these players who are now struggling.
People talk about entertainment value but he can only play the cards he’s dealt. In his last couple of years it was tough, grinding rugby but injuries were biting and we didn’t have some attacking weapons of last years. when he had an unplayable Tomkins and Hock rampaging in 2012, it was some of the most entertaining rugby I’ve seen a Wigan team play.
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| Shaun Wane is an absolute no no. As good as he was for us, a true Wigan legend imo we should be going forwards not backwards.
I’d be happy for Lam to get a shot with the stability of a long term contact but I suspect he wants to go back home.
Flanagan would be brilliant though I can’t see IL forking out for him, those blaming him for SC issues, surely that’s the BOD not the head coach.
My personal choice would be Demetriou, now 42 a good age and has served a long apprenticeship. A lot of good things have been said about his coaching ability, he also knows the English game.
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| I don’t see how going to a guy who in seven seasons in charge got to five Grand Finals (winning three), two challenge cup finals (winning one) and two world club challenge appearances (winning one) can be seen as a big no no and going backwards. Yes physically it’s a step back to the last coach but his CV is one which licks people like Lam, Flanagan, Deacon, Ward or whoever else has been mentioned.
It won’t happen under Lenagan but I’d love to be wrong. If we had some proper investment in the team and he came back and we handed him attacking talent like Wire have provided for Steve Price (Austin, Widdop etc) then he’d win and win well IMO.
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