Having just watched that load of ing crap, and looking at the upcoming fixtures, we are now in a relegation dogfight. The next fixtures are Warrington & Salford(A), Catalan (H), Castleford and Wakefield (A) and Saints (H). of those fixtures, I can only see the possibility of a positive result against the Dragons, and I'm not too sure about that!

With the players and management/ownership we have, this is very definitely a situation where relegation is a distinct possibility.

Take Lam off the menu, the rest will follow.i reckon we win 3 out of 6 at best.

Which 3 do your cherry & white tinted specs see us winning? And who do you replace Lam with?

I take it you didn't watch the game last night? Even Salford will be rubbing their hands together for you lot.

We are FIVE games into the season.

FIVE.

Yes it’s not been great but all it takes is one good performance to turn it around ala Hull FC.

We’ll be nowhere near bottom come October. Christ almighty. I know we’re in a bit of a crisis here but the over reaction and doomsday predictions are embarassing.

but weve played the 4 test teams and lost 3....

According to the table Wigan are one of the four test teams.

obviously cant play ourselves....

And?

We are FIVE games in.

11th or 12th ?

with 1 win, we have to play better teams, I dont get your point

I don’t think Wigan will get pulled into the dog fight,but I’m sure Leeds fans are saying the same thing

Radlinski will become intrim again I would guess.

Good job. We'd probably find a way of losing that too.

again?

Not a chance Wigan will be anywhere near a relegation fight. We’ll click and we’ll win games. 5 games in and hitting the panic button already. I’ve come to expect nothing but negativity from most on here.

Can you not see why it might be a bit arrogant to suggest quite simply that we’ll click? Where’s the evidence for that? Different coach, different style, different set of players in key positions. It is too early to be convinced we’ll get relegated but the discussion needs to be had after Lam’s comments and his confusion over what’s going on.

It’s not arrogant at all it’s perspecive. Lam asked for patience and I’m prepared to be patient. We replaced 3 players from the GF winning side. In my view Bullock has been an improvement on Sutton, Hardaker has been as good a replacement for Tomkins as we could have hoped for and Greenwood has been superb since his 1st game.

I’m confident that we’ll improve because let’s face it, we can’t get much worse. We have some excellent rugby players at our club and I’ve always believed that form is temporary, class is permanent. I said I’d give it until Easter before I judge Lam and I will do just that.

This.

The only danger (and Leeds are a good recent example of this) is that once confidence goes it can be very hard to get it back, we need a win and soon to stop the rot otherwise we could end up like Leeds did (and they had players on paper much better than their league position reflected).

My worry is that if Wigan perform against Wire like they did against Hudds then it could be a very heavy defeat and that could erode confidence even more. A good performance is needed next week.

I went to the WCC and came away pleased with the teams performance, if not the result. I went to the Hull and Hudds games and listened to the London game and just cannot believe the difference - we are now totally clueless! The last time we lost 4 in a row at the beginning of the season was 2006 I think, and we all know what nearly happened then. It could be a very long season.

A big few weeks lie ahead. Our next 4 fixtures need at least 2 wins. Wire away, Salford away, cats home Cas away.

Thats a tough 4 weeks but we need to pick up some points

The problem is the pressure will build massively if we lose the next few and start to get cut adrift by four+ points at the bottom. That's what happened in 2006. We clearly didn't have the worst squad in the league but the players became paralysed by fear and intense pressure.

I know it was a bad season that in 2006 but how exciting was the last month or so of that season?! Had some great wins and some of the atmospheres where great given that tho I hope there isn't a repeat of that season!!!

Our crowds went up as the season got worse! There was a real ‘backs to the wall’, all in it together mentality around the club and we were more galvanised then than I can recall for a very long time.

I wish our fans could adopt that same mentality now and get behind the club instead of the constant negativity and moaning. We all know we’re nowhere near where we’d like to be but just get to the game behind the lads. Being a supporter means being supportive! (Sits back and waits for happy clapper, they don’t deserve our support, I’d rather not spend my money and similar related comments).