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| The time has come for sentiment to go out of the window. Edwards must clarify his position and if he doesnt want to come just write him off and either let Lam have the job full time with a new squad or bring in a new coach. All this Edwards malarkey is pathetic.
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One of Marshall/Davies/Burgess or Manfredi. We do not need 4 first choice wingers.
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Tommy - Past it
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Gildart - not big enough
Farrell or Greenwood - Take your pick, we cant have two second rows on big money that can only play down the left.
Powell - Not good enough in attack
Hamlin - What exactly is his position? Hes too small for prop and doesnt have the handling for 13.
Tautai - A dozen good games in how many years?
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A Hooker that can actually do more than just just tackle and pass the ball.
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| Knee-jerk reactions aside we definitely should’ve won but we did have 7-9 first-team players injured.
Hooker has to be number one priority though. Powell offers as much as Logan Tomkins did and we moved him on.
New half probably isn’t going to happen unless GW goes to the NRL, we signed Sammut for 2 years
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"Knee-jerk reactions aside we definitely should’ve won but we did have 7-9 first-team players injured.
Hooker has to be number one priority though. Powell offers as much as Logan Tomkins did and we moved him on.
New half probably isn’t going to happen unless GW goes to the NRL, we signed Sammut for 2 years
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Not a knee jerk reaction, we lost to London!
Obviously you can do all of the above in one swoop but it must be implemented over the next few years as and when contracts allow.
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| Quote ="The_Enforcer"The time has come for sentiment to go out of the window. Edwards must clarify his position and if he doesnt want to come just write him off and either let Lam have the job full time with a new squad or bring in a new coach. All this Edwards malarkey is pathetic.
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Escare - A luxury that we cant afford in the salary cap era
One of Marshall/Davies/Burgess or Manfredi. We do not need 4 first choice wingers.
Sammut - Embarrassing signing
Tommy - Past it
Clubb - Never really had it/past it
Gildart - not big enough
Farrell or Greenwood - Take your pick, we cant have two second rows on big money that can only play down the left.
Powell - Not good enough in attack
Hamlin - What exactly is his position? Hes too small for prop and doesnt have the handling for 13.
Tautai - A dozen good games in how many years?
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A big, strong running centre that can punch holes
A world class halfback - This is a must, most important position in team.
2 big tough, aggressive props with experience
A second row that can play down the right and has decent size.
A Hooker that can actually do more than just just tackle and pass the ball.'"
As poor as we played today, I can’t help but feel this is a bit OTT. Some of the points I agree with, but you’re basically wanting to wipe out half the team...
Sammut has played two games and last week was impressive, agreed less so today. But it’s a bit early to decide he isn’t any good, remember Pat Richards?
Injuries are currently showing why it’s good to have a number of wingers hence why Escare was on the wing today. I can’t imagine Davies/Marshall are contributing as much to the cap as a replacement of their quality would cost.
Clubb, one of Wigan’s best today.
Gildart, sometimes makes the wrong decision but still one of the best centres in the comp. Let’s not quickly forget what he did to Barba last season... in fact, I’m about 90% sure his try scoring record is better than Regan Grace’s... a winger.
Greenwood should be nowhere near a list of people “to go”. It’s about this point it was difficult to continue reading.
Hamlin has been very strong so far this season and one of the only reasons we even took last week to golden point.
Powell/Tautai, I do agree though.
Whilst we certainly are struggling and change is needed, wiping out half the team including some very good players is not the answer.
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| I agree over the wingers having 4 is a luxury so with Escare he’s not good enough in any one position,Navarette too looks nothing again,Hamlin is an odd one though I’d keep for bit longer yet
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| Whilst there’s a couple of players we could clearly move on, what we really need to do is get some stability in to the place and nail down exactly what’s happening with Shaun Edwards and not let it drag on.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Whilst there’s a couple of players we could clearly move on, what we really need to do is get some stability in to the place and nail down exactly what’s happening with Shaun Edwards and not let it drag on.'"
The Edwards dilemma will drag on longer than naming a replacement after SW announced he was leaving...
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| Quote ="The_Enforcer"The time has come for sentiment to go out of the window. Edwards must clarify his position and if he doesnt want to come just write him off and either let Lam have the job full time with a new squad or bring in a new coach. All this Edwards malarkey is pathetic.
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Escare - A luxury that we cant afford in the salary cap era
One of Marshall/Davies/Burgess or Manfredi. We do not need 4 first choice wingers.
Sammut - Embarrassing signing
Tommy - Past it
Clubb - Never really had it/past it
Gildart - not big enough
Farrell or Greenwood - Take your pick, we cant have two second rows on big money that can only play down the left.
Powell - Not good enough in attack
Hamlin - What exactly is his position? Hes too small for prop and doesnt have the handling for 13.
Tautai - A dozen good games in how many years?
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A big, strong running centre that can punch holes
A world class halfback - This is a must, most important position in team.
2 big tough, aggressive props with experience
A second row that can play down the right and has decent size.
A Hooker that can actually do more than just just tackle and pass the ball.'"
How the hell did ISA escape your list of outs...he really is not good enough.
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| Quote ="WARRIOR5"As poor as we played today, I can’t help but feel this is a bit OTT. Some of the points I agree with, but you’re basically wanting to wipe out half the team...
Sammut has played two games and last week was impressive, agreed less so today. But it’s a bit early to decide he isn’t any good, remember Pat Richards?
Injuries are currently showing why it’s good to have a number of wingers hence why Escare was on the wing today. I can’t imagine Davies/Marshall are contributing as much to the cap as a replacement of their quality would cost.
Clubb, one of Wigan’s best today.
Gildart, sometimes makes the wrong decision but still one of the best centres in the comp. Let’s not quickly forget what he did to Barba last season... in fact, I’m about 90% sure his try scoring record is better than Regan Grace’s... a winger.
Greenwood should be nowhere near a list of people “to go”. It’s about this point it was difficult to continue reading.
Hamlin has been very strong so far this season and one of the only reasons we even took last week to golden point.
Powell/Tautai, I do agree though.
Whilst we certainly are struggling and change is needed, wiping out half the team including some very good players is not the answer.'"
We do not need 4 first choice wingers. The injury situation we are in right now is uncommon to have both your wingers out at the same time and wing is a position that can be filled easier and with less impact than other positions.
Gildart just isnt big enough. He is no physical threat.
I said Greenwood OR Farrell. We cant have two players that can only play on the left. Whats the point of having both if they are useless on the right? Lose one OR the other. Id choose to lose Farrell.
Hamlin is a strong runner but he simply is not big enough to play prop especially in a team that already lacks size elsewhere.
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| Quote ="The_Enforcer"The time has come for sentiment to go out of the window. Edwards must clarify his position and if he doesnt want to come just write him off and either let Lam have the job full time with a new squad or bring in a new coach. All this Edwards malarkey is pathetic.
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Escare - A luxury that we cant afford in the salary cap era
One of Marshall/Davies/Burgess or Manfredi. We do not need 4 first choice wingers.
Sammut - Embarrassing signing
Tommy - Past it
Clubb - Never really had it/past it
Gildart - not big enough
Farrell or Greenwood - Take your pick, we cant have two second rows on big money that can only play down the left.
Powell - Not good enough in attack
Hamlin - What exactly is his position? Hes too small for prop and doesnt have the handling for 13.
Tautai - A dozen good games in how many years?
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A big, strong running centre that can punch holes
A world class halfback - This is a must, most important position in team.
2 big tough, aggressive props with experience
A second row that can play down the right and has decent size.
A Hooker that can actually do more than just just tackle and pass the ball.'"
That would have Ben a perfect post if you hadn't avoided Lockers...
Wigan might have won had he played vs London. For that very reason, should he not be top of the out list?
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| Hankinson for Sarge
Move George to 7 and bring in Kieran Foran
Jared Waerea-Hargreaves
George Burgess
Elliott Whitehead
Jake Friend
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| Quote ="RichieS"How the hell did ISA escape your list of outs...he really is not good enough.'"
Isa is so poor that i forgot him.
Add him to outs.
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You played soft ball by not having the nerve to mention Lockers...don't you agree?
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| Quote ="WARRIOR5"As poor as we played today, I can’t help but feel this is a bit OTT. Some of the points I agree with, but you’re basically wanting to wipe out half the team...
Sammut has played two games and last week was impressive, agreed less so today. But it’s a bit early to decide he isn’t any good, remember Pat Richards?
Injuries are currently showing why it’s good to have a number of wingers hence why Escare was on the wing today. I can’t imagine Davies/Marshall are contributing as much to the cap as a replacement of their quality would cost.
Clubb, one of Wigan’s best today.
Gildart, sometimes makes the wrong decision but still one of the best centres in the comp. Let’s not quickly forget what he did to Barba last season... in fact, I’m about 90% sure his try scoring record is better than Regan Grace’s... a winger.
Greenwood should be nowhere near a list of people “to go”. It’s about this point it was difficult to continue reading.
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Powell/Tautai, I do agree though.
Whilst we certainly are struggling and change is needed, wiping out half the team including some very good players is not the answer.'"
Yup, agree with that. Apart from Clubb, who I don't rate. And, as Richie says, Isa. Clearly replacing Marshall (who was poor against Hull) with Eascaré didn't work out too well; sounds like he bombed exactly the sort of chance that Marshall would have snapped up, resulting in a try at the other end.
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| Quote ="The Whiffy Kipper"Hankinson for Sarge
Move George to 7 and bring in Kieran Foran
Jared Waerea-Hargreaves
George Burgess
Elliott Whitehead
Jake Friend
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No good. George is not a 7, he cant organise. We need a world class 7 that can kick long and organise/direct the team.
Sarge is fine without being world class, he also offers good cover for fullback in case of injury to Zak. We need a big right edged centre.
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| Quote ="The Whiffy Kipper"Hankinson for Sarge
Move George to 7 and bring in Kieran Foran
Jared Waerea-Hargreaves
George Burgess
Elliott Whitehead
Jake Friend
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Foran? Wow. He has... 'issues'. I think he's finished. Was never a fan anyway.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Enforcer
You played soft ball by not having the nerve to mention Lockers...don't you agree?'"
No O'loughlin is still our best player. If he keeps up his early season form then there is no problem with him doing another year if he wants to. If you had asked that question at the end of last season id of agreed but he looks fitter than he has done for years. We should be looking at a replacement though for the future as its only a matter of time when he retires
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| Quote ="moto748"Yup, agree with that. Apart from Clubb, who I don't rate. And, as Richie says, Isa. Clearly replacing Marshall (who was poor against Hull) with Eascaré didn't work out too well; sounds like he bombed exactly the sort of chance that Marshall would have snapped up, resulting in a try at the other end.'"
I’d say it was the type of chance Marshall would have taken instead we where treated to Dixon doing “ a Marshall” by running the length of the pitch
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| I’d be getting rid of Sarge Escare Isa Tautai Powell. With Tommy and Lockers probably retiring it frees up big cap space. Hankinson should be given 5-10 games before deciding if we need a right centre. New 7,8,9,11 is definitely needed
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| Quote ="The_Enforcer"No O'loughlin is still our best player. If he keeps up his early season form then there is no problem with him doing another year if he wants to. If you had asked that question at the end of last season id of agreed but he looks fitter than he has done for years. We should be looking at a replacement though for the future as its only a matter of time when he retires'"
See I knew you'd say that. It was a loaded question....that reply goes totally against the grain of your whole initial brave post....
Lockers desperate value to the team and only being able to forfil 2 handfuls of games a season, is why Wigan ought to have been looking for a replacement that can play 6 handfuls as season.
Wigan seriously are looking at this inside down....you cannot save lockers in games like London...it was imperative he played today... he must play vs Giants as this IS the biggest game you'll have all season if fortunes don't change, and you cant use hindsight, I can't see where that next win is going to happen.
Lockers needs to be rested again Saints Wire and Cas, games you'll not win and played vs London Hudds KR.
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| Quote ="The Whiffy Kipper"Hankinson for Sarge
Move George to 7 and bring in Kieran Foran
Jared Waerea-Hargreaves
George Burgess
Elliott Whitehead
Jake Friend
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We’d need a major change to stand any chance of any of those happening (bar the first one).
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"See I knew you'd say that. It was a loaded question....that reply goes totally against the grain of your whole initial brave post....
Lockers desperate value to the team and only being able to forfil 2 handfuls of games a season, is why Wigan ought to have been looking for a replacement that can play 6 handfuls as season.
Wigan seriously are looking at this inside down....you cannot save lockers in games like London...it was imperative he played today... he must play vs Giants as this IS the biggest game you'll have all season if fortunes don't change, and you cant use hindsight, I can't see where that next win is going to happen.
Lockers needs to be rested again Saints Wire and Cas, games you'll not win and played vs London Hudds KR.'"
You do realise he did play today??? I am sure you do, but you are wording it like we should get rid because he didn't play...
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| You missed Williams. Big money and, for some of last season and most of this, no return.....
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| Or, to arrive.
A defence coach!
That is the area we are in trouble with. It needs sorting and quickly.
With Wane as coach we'd have beaten Hull and London.
Without him and his defence attitude we are all over the place.
Not who should go but who should arrive.
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| If we can get big money for George he can go asap for me . His head is not with this team at present.
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