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| I know this is a kind of open-ended question, and any right-thinking person would say 'both, not either or', but realistically where will Wigan be focussing, if - and it's a big IF - they get past Hull in the semi?
And no, I don't expect people to produce a crystal ball, I'm just wondering what we think or fear.
In the old days of Graham Lowe and John Monie, Wigan possessed iron-hard mentality and discipline, and could easily handle the pressure of both competitions at the same time. I'm not sure it would be that easy now for anyone. Yes, Leeds did it last year, but to be fair, their Wembley final hardly tested them. And, as our current bunch of faltering heroes still seem inclined to flunk the big challenges under almost any circumstances, I can't help wondering if it could only ever be one or the other.
I imagine that if we beat Hull, this Warriors team - who at times seem very difficult to motivate (the bigger the occasion the more sluggish they are apparently are!) - will be so relieved to have made a final (and perhaps rightly so given the unending injury crisis), that the Super 8s will go by the board. Not intentionally, but I see so little moral fibre in the current Wigan team that it's really difficult to picture them battling their way to glory on both fronts (even though the fixtures for the 8s offer them a relatively early opp to get revenge over Saints on our own midden).
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| If it were one or t'other it would be a Challenge Cup win. That's where the money is for the club.
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| If and its a big IF we beat Hull, I still think it'll be difficult to beat Wire at Wembley assuming they get there which I think they will. Wire seem to have the edge over us in recent years. I'd say GF was a more likely possibility given our run of final losses and more so the manner of them. We all know what happened v saints in that GF and if the knock on against Maguire had been given who knows what might have happened?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"If it were one or t'other it would be a Challenge Cup win. That's where the money is for the club.'"
It's not necessarily the wini don't think, just the appearance.
Therefore Grand Final win plus a Challenge Cup Final loss.
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| Quote ="MattyB"It's not necessarily the wini don't think, just the appearance.
Therefore Grand Final win plus a Challenge Cup Final loss.'"
Challenge Cup Final defeat is the definition of agony. I've experienced it five times, but I suppose it's better than not getting there at all.
A Grand Final win would make up for it, but it would be tough to bounce back from that degree of disappointment sufficiently to reach Old Trafford.
I wish I had more faith in Wigan's mental strength.
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| The Grand Final will always be bigger for me just because of the amount of wins against top opposition required to get there as opposed to the Cup where you might only need to beat a couple of top teams. Having said that, I'd gladly take us underperforming in the super 8s and finishing fourth in the league if it meant winning the challenge cup
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| Your favourite to win both on betting . Top coach and players you should be very confident . We will struggle to get near you Fri but we will try.
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| Quote ="hull2524"Your favourite to win both on betting . Top coach and players you should be very confident . We will struggle to get near you Fri but we will try.
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Don't beat yourself up too much. Unless we're holding an awful lot in reserve, I'm really struggling to see a cherry and white win this weekend.
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| Quote ="hull2524"Your favourite to win both on betting . Top coach and players you should be very confident . We will struggle to get near you Fri but we will try.
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Warrington are favourites for the cup according to the bookies. Having a semi against Wakefield probably doesn't hurt.
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| sorry I meant to say your fav to win fri, and fav to win grand final, and rightly so, we havnt played well and struggled to win the last few matches after 2 bad losses, you are a top class team with world class players all over the park, as long as we give our all we might keep on your shirt tails,
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| Quote ="hull2524"sorry I meant to say your fav to win fri, and fav to win grand final, and rightly so, we havnt played well and struggled to win the last few matches after 2 bad losses, you are a top class team with world class players all over the park, as long as we give our all we might keep on your shirt tails,'" I am sure I have seen that quote somewhere.
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| Not on last weeks performance Hull 2524
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| Quote ="Sunshine state"Not on last weeks performance Hull 2524'"
He's/she being a very sarcastic so and so
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| I'm sure Hull fans would prefer the Challenge Cup (to go with their other Wembley wins).
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| me sarcastic, nooooooooooo
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| They really are confident aren't they. As they say, pride comes before a fall...
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| The GF is the major prize for all SL sides at the seasons outset without a doubt and after that anything else is a bonus
The Challenge Cup is the next best prize on offer Kudos wise and it does carry a hefty prize fund for the winners
But IMO the CC doesn't get any clubs juices flowing until they actually reach the semi final stage,Some SL clubs are happy to be eliminated in the earlier rounds to concentrate on the SL competition safe in the knowledge that they could still get eliminated in later rounds of the CC
Out of the 3 competitions available to SL sides then I would choose
1: A Grand Final win without a doubt every time
2: A Challenge cup final win
3: A league leaders shield trophy
This trophy only becomes worthwhile nowadays IMO is when it is backed up by a GF win
If it isnt then it is merely a trophy that no one will ever recall who actually won it in years to come unfortunately
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| how can we be confident when where playing the best team in super league
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| Quote ="hull2524"how can we be confident when where playing the best team in super league'"
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| If the OP means league leaders shield then Cup, if not then the GF.
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| Quote ="Trainman"If the OP means league leaders shield then Cup, if not then the GF.'" I still prefer the occasion, atmosphere and so on of a Wembley win to an Old Trafford win - the whole day/weekend out just seems that much more special.
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| The cups great. It's a fantastic weekend or say out and it feels great to win it but the Grand Final is by far and away the biggest prize IMO. It says you're the best team in the country and by winning it you get a warm glow through the off season whilst your rivals stew.
Give me either any day but I'd choose the Grand Final out of both of them.
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| Quote ="hull2524"how can we be confident when where playing the best team in super league'"
As I used to say to my lad when he was about ten years old, once is funny, twice is a little bit funny, but three times is !!@&&!!"::!!
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| ok joke over, hope all you guys have a safe trip and its a great game, as long as we win lol
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