I notice Ben Flower has had to delete his social media account on twitter. He obviously wants to ignore and get away from the media hype surrounding him after last year and the abuse he is receiving from Saints fans.

It's a slight concern ahead of the game that this is still on his mind.

To me, Saints fans need to let this go and stop sending him abuse and nasty messages. Ben has served his ban and so has Hohaia.

The best possible way Ben can approach this is to continue the improvement that he has shown in his game this last few weeks and continue to put behind him what was a dark period in his career.

Sticks and stones.

What, did he just think saints fans would forget the act he committed?

If he doesn't want abuse then don't be on social media, it's a cesspit. Suprised it took him this long.

As a neutral are you ever going to forgive maguire for daring to pull someone's shirt haha

The Rugby Gods sorted that one out - we became champions about 3 weeks later.

Who cares?!

He and us have a Grand Final to look forward to which is more then the people giving him stick probably have.

He'll have a great game tomorrow.

25/1 for man of the match.
Worth a fiver.
In a Kevin Keegan kinda way I'd love it just love if he did.
Mr Patrick Power has my fiver

Is it a bit quiet in Merseyside tonight? No rugby going on?
Hey come over to Manchester there's a match on tomorrow neet.

And you're such a neutral that you remember that? Yeah, okay.

He's been a wet drip since he came back from his ban anyway. All aggression, even the good kind seems to have gone from his game. If he's still letting what he did get to him then that has something to do with his own guilt over the situation. I'd hazard to say his shirt might be a wasted spot tomorrow, he's going to be so on edge I dread to think what kind of showing he could produce.

You obviously haven't been paying attention.

Yes I have. He doesn't run anywhere near as hard as he did before his ban. It's like he's had a lobotomy. He used to fly off the handle at the slightest thing, he's got rid of that from his game but he also seems to have lost a lot of impact.

Did he balls fly off the handle at the smallest thing. You're just judging him on one incident. He didn't look like he had a lobotomy when he ran straight through the Huddersfield to score last week. He's that much of a wasted shirt he has scored 3 tries in the last 5 games from prop

your thinking of simms

Looks like the trolls from the mid table teams are bored during their off season....

That's not the only time. I remember him losing his marbles during a good friday game a few years back because Saints players kept bashing him, one run in he dropped the ball and absolutely lost it. It was mostly just inward anger but it was anger non the less. He most definitely had a temper on him. Like I say, he's cut it out, and I don't have the info that you guys do as I can only see what is on SKY, good to know he's scored a couple in the last few games, but honestly when I've seen him this season he's lost some zip to me. Not trying to troll honestly, just my opinion is obviously less informed than someone who's there week in, week out. That's fine.

I'm a rugby fan. Not just a Warrington fan. I try to keep up with most things Super League. I'll be there today, albeit in the Leeds end. No need to have such a chip on the shoulder.

twice in about 6 years....oh no hes an animal

Well, your assessment of Flower is wide of the mark... He was never an over aggressive player, and though he started slowly this season is virtually back to running in as hard as he was.

It's not a chip, just annoyance when people have a biased view that wide of the mark... Enjoy the GF.

I believe he has been on an Anger Management course run by Les Boyd, Tawera Nikau and Des Drummond which has been a great help. Ashton Simms was booked to present the first presentation however, he was busy chinning a rookie half back unable to defend himself so he couldn't make it.
Get a grip man.
Ben Flower has been back to vest in the last few weeks and I'm hoping he delivers today for himself and his family.

Don't feed the bored Wire troll with nothing to do on his day off!

I'm posting from my phone on the way to Manchester for a few pre match beers before attending a Grand Final my teams playing in, not sat in my undies in my bedroom scratching my crack!

As usual Nicky you have quickly got to the nub of the situation. Have a great day out.

Aggressive bunch. I'll be in attendance today, nice attempt though. I don't know why it always has to turn into a slanging match of who's worse. I was commenting on Ben's form since returning, not how much of a thug he is or isn't. Just from what I've seen, which is apparently wrong, he must have just been incredibly camera shy this season on Sky.

no..but I wont be abusing him on social media.