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| I'm sure he knows what he is doing.
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| Lockers, Bailey, Fielden, Deacon and Leuluai?
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| Link doesn't seem to be working at the moment, what did it say?
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| Like it...it will give some of the established players of the team more responsibility.
I can see Rogues choices being the likely candidates.
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| Really interesting notion and I'm for it. The shared responsibility will hopefully ease Lockers of the burden a little along with ensuring the other 4 step up a little.
I'm liking this fresh (to SL at least) thinking.
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| It's an interesteing concept and one that i think could be very good. It takes the pressure away from one man in O'Loughlin and allows him probably concentrate a little more on his own game. At the same time it shares that responsibility around and gives each individual added reason to lead the way in training and in games.
I also think it'll add motivation to the rest of the squad outside of that leadership group to try and break into it somewhere down the line if thats an ambition of theirs.
Good stuff.
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| I'm not sure.
Maguire is surely under a lot of pressure to bring new ides in, after all, that is what we brought him in for, a forward thinking tactician, he was sold to me as being. Is this that this pressure talking or is this actually a good idea.
I don't like the idea of 5 captains on the field, even if only one is 'acting captain' the senior players should have a say all the time anyway, and shouldn't need to be given 1/5th captain duties to ensure this. Hmmm, I'm not sure what I think of this. Off field I like it, on field, I dunno.
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| Sounds like an idea which could either work very well or not work at all and cause problems within the squad.
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| A great idea IMO. Some people on here have bemoaned the lack of leadership on the field. This is an ideal solution to that problem. 5 players all sharing said responsibility is 5x better than just one. It gives the other 4 players the freedom to concentrate on their own game without the added pressure of being captain. Another good idea. Its been a good news winter in wigan!
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| surely the "leadership type" players should be doing everything they can to lead the team, without needing to be 1/5th of a captain. At Saints, KC is the captain, but I would expect the likes of Gidley/Pryce/Wellens/Graham to do their bit regardless of their official title.
seems to me like he is scared of making what could be an unpopular decision
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| Quote ="Mr.Side"Sounds like an idea which could either work very well or not work at all and cause problems within the squad.'"
could do: if all 5 captains have a different view of things on the field, which one does the team rally behind?
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| I personally think its stupid, sorry, a laughing stock! 5 captains? What next? 5 Coaches?
We have a well respected Captain in the dressing room, we need to get on with trying to raise the playing ability!
A Wigan guy Captaining the Wigan club and arguably our best player, nevermind the tripe we hear from people telling us it will loosen him as a player... RUBBISH!
I cant believe this!
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| A very interesting idea. It wouldn't work if you had a massive personality in the team, like Hanley, Edwards, Farrell or maybe even Barrett, but we basically don't.
To have five inidividuals earmarked as seniors - almost like school prefects - is a neat twist. It won't have much impact on match day, but it might have a huge impact in the general running and control of the team, particularly when we have so many youngsters being brought in.
For those tearing their hair out at the outlandishness of it, I would remind them that people also tore their hair out at Graham Lowe's outlandish notion to play Ellery Hanley at loose forward (which also, according to Radio Yorkshire made us 'a laughing stock') and John Monie's outlandish notion to spell our prop forwards, which lots of people laughed at before quietly starting to do it themselves.
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| Quote ="saints35 bulls0"surely the "leadership type" players should be doing everything they can to lead the team, without needing to be 1/5th of a captain. At Saints, KC is the captain, but I would expect the likes of Gidley/Pryce/Wellens/Graham to do their bit regardless of their official title.
seems to me like he is scared of making what could be an unpopular decision
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But he has said he will name a captain every gameday, so he will have to make that decision, if not for a season, then on a week to week basis.
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| Should be a leader for the forwards and a leader for the backs of which one of those should be the nominated matchday captain, preferably on a rota basis.
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| As long as one of them is firing the players up under the sticks like Faz used to do and others are leading by example then I don't think it really matters.
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| Quote ="hatty"Should be a leader for the forwards and a leader for the backs of which one of those should be the nominated matchday captain, preferably on a rota basis.'"
A rota wouldn't work. It should be the best man for the job at any given time.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"As long as one of them is firing the players up under the sticks like Faz used to do and others are leading by example then I don't think it really matters.'"
Hopefully they won't be "under the sticks" too often this term!
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| [urlhttp://wiganwarriors.com/news_full.asp?newsid=5388[/url
Maguire also says everyone bar Bailey is fit at the moment, so the rumours about KP and MickMac look unfounded.
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| [i"Loose forward Sean O'Loughlin – who has been Wigan's captain for the past four years – will be among the group, and has backed the radical change."[/i
so does this mean that Lockers has known all along how gash he has been as captain, makes sense to me
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| Quote ="Baked Bean Boogie"[i"Loose forward Sean O'Loughlin – who has been Wigan's captain for the past four years – will be among the group, and has backed the radical change."[/i
so does this mean that Lockers has known all along how gash he has been as captain, makes sense to me'"
How does that say that O'Loughlin admits he's been a bad captain?
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| Quote ="Dei Morti Viventi"[urlhttp://wiganwarriors.com/news_full.asp?newsid=5388[/url
Maguire also says everyone bar Bailey is fit at the moment, so the rumours about KP and MickMac look unfounded.'"
From that interview it sounds as though the idea has been well received throughout the team. The fact that the 5 have been chosen by the whole squad too is also a good move.
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| I think it just reaffirms what a few people have been saying in that as fans we build up the captain’s role into something more important than what it really is.
At the end of the day no one man can do it alone and leadership in the modern day game has to be shared. What’s the difference in naming Lockers as the sole captain but yet he still shares the role with other senior players compared to naming 5 senior captains? Do we honestly think Lockers does it all on his own?
All the top teams in years gone by have had a number of leaders at the club who I’m 100% sure played just a big of a role as the people who were named ‘captain’. For example do you think Peacock or Robbie Paul weren’t on equal footing with Lowes at Bradford? What about when KC/Scully or Martyn when Joynt was captain at Saints? What about Lam/Dallas/Furner/Renouf when Faz was at Wigan?
What does the captain actually do?
Picks heads or tails before a match? Liaises with the ref during the match and sends the refs words back to the team? B0llocks the players under the sticks (when did Lockers last do that btw?). Decides if he’s gonna go for 2 or not (I’m sure this comes from the stands as well?)
It’s not that big of an announcement really. It just confirms the set up we already knew was in place at the club and others in SL.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Lockers, Bailey, Fielden, Deacon and Leuluai?'"
I'd agree with that, although Richards may be in there above one of the others.
Personally I like it, the fact that we don't have a big personality in the team like cruncher says make's me think that this is the best option available.
The club really is receiving a change from top to bottom, and I think most of us agree it's what was needed for a long time. Hopefully this rejuvenation can springboard us back to somewhere near the top.
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