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| and this is a big if but not impossible.
Wigan win the Grand Final or even get to Old Trafford. How can IFL possibly not renew Nobles contract? I would think its already cut and dried that Noble is going by now so how would IFL explain himself should we win it or even get there?
If Noble manages to win us the Grand Final, IFL and alot of fans could end up with some serious egg on there faces. Whoever the new coach is that comes in he is gonna be under massive pressure to deliver. Anything less than the CC semi final and the final eliminator of the play offs next year will be seen as a failure IMO.
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| wigan now have a reasonable chance of getting to the GF and winning it .
it would be rather strange if they did'nt renew his contract if they did win it
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| He deserves a new contract.
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| sorry just posted same poser just after you good question though .
there would be some great spin if they did part company with old snotty nose
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"wigan now have a reasonable chance of getting to the GF and winning it .
it would be rather strange if they did'nt renew his contract if they did win it'"
Not really.
Do you want him??????????????
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| They did that with John Dorahy
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| No he has used the negativity, surrounding his contract dispute and turned it into a positive by developing a seige mentality.
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"wigan now have a reasonable chance of getting to the GF and winning it .
it would be rather strange if they did'nt renew his contract if they did win it'"
Well lets not count any chickens but there is a precident, Clarke & McInnes.
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| Yeah, I think the fans an IL doubted we could get there.
Is IL going to look silly if we do get there and win it having shown Noble the door?
The media would make a meal out of it for the full off-season.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Not really.
Do you want him??????????????'"
he dont want us ,thank god
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| It seems crazy that if we did win it Noble would be leaving.
If we did win it, clearly he deserves to stay.
But lets focus on clubcall and our semi final first.
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| Quote ="ChrisA"Yeah, I think the fans an IL doubted we could get there.
Is IL going to look silly if we do get there and win it having shown Noble the door?
The media would make a meal out of it for the full off-season.'"
Right, so would you have kept Clarke+McInnes? and missed out on Graham Lowe?
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| Quote ="AJ"
But lets focus on clubcall and our semi final first.'"
Exactly. It's a bit crazy we are within 80 mins of a GF appearance so lets just talk about that between now and what happens next, whatever that may be.
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| Quote ="DaveO"Well lets not count any chickens but there is a precident, Clarke & McInnes.
Dave'"
They were replaced at the end of the 85/86 season. The season after the Challenge Cup win (in 84/85). Dorahy's sacking after a season we won the double would be a better example of a precedent.
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| Quote ="Steve Ella's Beard"Right, so would you have kept Clarke+McInnes? and missed out on Graham Lowe?'"
Clarke & McCinness didn't win the League though did they?
A bit of DaveO Mischief there I think
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| Noble out
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| Quote ="Red Hot Jalapeno"and this is a big if but not impossible.
Wigan win the Grand Final or even get to Old Trafford. How can IFL possibly not renew Nobles contract? I would think its already cut and dried that Noble is going by now so how would IFL explain himself should we win it or even get there?
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Winning the GF will be amazing but I don't believe Noble is the one to take us forward. We need a new coach. Just because we can string a few decent wins together at the back end of the year doesnt make him a good coach, or infact, us a good team. We finished 6th this year - behind wakefield, hull kr & huddersfield. In my opinion we should be finishing higher than those teams with the team we have. People forget the dire rugby we played up until about may? Then we start to put some good results together and people want him to stay on.
My view is, Thanks Brian, but it's time for a change.
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| Quote ="dany1979"Noble out
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Or would it be IFL out should he replace Noble with a coach who fails to get us to a semi final/final eliminator?
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Clarke & McCinness didn't win the League though did they?
A bit of DaveO Mischief there I think
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We won the Challenge cup, finished 3rd in the League, got to the Lancashire cup final under them in 1984/1985, and we finished 2nd in the League, quarter finals of the Challenge cup and won the JPS + Lancashire cups under them in 1985/1986.
So they had a pretty damn good record.
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| Quote ="Jeff the God of Biscuits"=red[uWinning the GF will be amazing but I don't believe Noble is the one to take us forward[/u. We need a new coach. Just because we can string a few decent wins together at the back end of the year doesnt make him a good coach, or infact, us a good team. We finished 6th this year - behind wakefield, hull kr & huddersfield. In my opinion we should be finishing higher than those teams with the team we have. People forget the dire rugby we played up until about may? Then we start to put some good results together and people want him to stay on.
My view is, Thanks Brian, but it's time for a change.'"
The bit in red is seriously crazy though. Surely 'if' we did somehow win the grand final Noble will us taken us to the very top never mind take us forward!
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| Quote ="Jeff the God of Biscuits"Winning the GF will be amazing but I don't believe Noble is the one to take us forward. We need a new coach. Just because we can string a few decent wins together at the back end of the year doesnt make him a good coach, or infact, us a good team. We finished 6th this year - behind wakefield, hull kr & huddersfield. In my opinion we should be finishing higher than those teams with the team we have. People forget the dire rugby we played up until about may? Then we start to put some good results together and people want him to stay on.
My view is, Thanks Brian, but it's time for a change.'"
I agree with that. Too many people are swayed by a the last few results and forget the underlying problems. Brian Noble has laid the foundations but we need someone new to finish the job.
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| Quote ="Steve Ella's Beard"Right, so would you have kept Clarke+McInnes? and missed out on Graham Lowe?'"
I never expressed an opinion, just asked a question or two.
I'm on the fence at the moment, we watch sh|t all season but we do well in the playoffs when it matters.
What exactly would we do if it was the opposite? Hull KR have played some good stuff, but lost both play off games.
We'd be going on about our team bottling it had we done the same.
Like I say they are just questions.
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| Quote ="wiganermike"I agree with that. Too many people are swayed by a the last few results and forget the underlying problems. Brian Noble has laid the foundations but we need someone new to finish the job.'"
If we won the GF is the job not finished?
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