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| I have all the respect in the world for Graham as a player but the big clown dint half throw his teddy out. Not shaking a hand after a game is unheard of in rugby league. even senior and Wilkin managed a smile and a hand shake. Big ginge even had a pop mcllennan. Priceless
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| Could someone get a picture of a dummy / baby and stick it on the saints forum, dont know how to do it. Think it would be priceless.
In a honesty it just sum's the guy up, he wouldnt last 5 mins down under. If the Aussie's have seen this me thinks someone is going to get targeted in the 4 nations.
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| Thought he had a strong game tonight.
Dont really think we are in a strong position to criticise his efforts, he was clearly unhappy about losing and looked like he actually cared unlike some players i could mention.
Call him all you want but we'd be more than happy to have him at Wigan.
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| Quote ="dany1979"Thought he had a strong game tonight.
Dont really think we are in a strong position to criticise his efforts, he was clearly unhappy about losing and looked like he actually cared unlike some players i could mention.
Call him all you want but we'd be more than happy to have him at Wigan.'"
as i stated i have all the respect the world for him as a player and hes far better then any prop we've had a wigan in a long time. But win or lose, punchups or not, shaking your opponents hand after a game is a must, particularly when you consider the battering they put their bodies through. By your argument you'd have to say the rest of the saints team didn't care about losing the league leaders shield tonight because they all shook hands with the leeds players !!!!. Grahams reaction was childish and some immaturity showed through on what was a very strong performance from him on the field.
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| He was high emotion that's all.
Graham would go well in the nrl, if only fielden would show as much of a will to win.he was close to mom tonight.
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| Quote ="lothlorian"as i stated i have all the respect the world for him as a player and hes far better then any prop we've had a wigan in a long time. But win or lose, punchups or not, shaking your opponents hand after a game is a must, particularly when you consider the battering they put their bodies through. By your argument you'd have to say the rest of the saints team didn't care about losing the league leaders shield tonight because they all shook hands with the leeds players !!!!. Grahams reaction was childish and some immaturity showed through on what was a very strong performance from him on the field.'"
Perhaps that was Grahams point exactly?
He certatnly didnt seem happy with some of his own team mates tonight so perhaps they didnt care enough?
There are a lot of things that can happen on a rugby pitch that more than warrant ignoring the post match hand shake.
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| Leeds targeted him with a lot of dirty play tonight, the chicken wing from Captain Forehead was atrocious, I can certainly understand why he didn't shake hands.
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| Leeds were disgraceful tonight and much as I hate Saints I don't blame Graham for his reaction
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| Quote ="Drachen Feuer"Leeds targeted him with a lot of dirty play tonight, the chicken wing from Captain Forehead was atrocious, I can certainly understand why he didn't shake hands.'"
I didn't see the incident in question, so can't really comment on it, but I'm of the opinion that you should really shake hands after the game pretty much come what may - it's just a traditional sign of respect for fellow players, even if you have none in the immediate aftermath.
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| Quote ="Drachen Feuer"Leeds targeted him with a lot of dirty play tonight, the chicken wing from Captain Forehead was atrocious, I can certainly understand why he didn't shake hands.'"
I thought initialy the Graham was trying to grab hold of JJBs arm in order to milk a pen for holding down. upon watching the reply i am still of that opinion, however JJB clearly turns the table on Graham and try's to snap his arm off, which is shocking play.
It was good to see Pilkin geting smashed of Senior mind!, just a shame that Gillmore never banjoed that little worm Smith.
The second best game i have seen all year. my first choice was the first game between these two.
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| Did Eastmond go off injured or was that tactical?
At one point i thought Long was the player most likley to be taken off, some of his passing was more than care free!
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| Quote ="dany1979"Did Eastmond go off injured or was that tactical?
At one point i thought Long was the player most likley to be taken off, some of his passing was more than care free!'" In the first five minutes he had thrown three shockers. I suppose we should give him the benefit of the doubt due to his pirate eye, but actually it has been pretty standard throughout his career.
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| Most posts on here tonight are about Saints. Did you lot not have a game tonight or something?
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| Quote ="Duke Eddington"Most posts on here tonight are about Saints.
Did you lot not have a game tonight or something?'"
Errrr... I count one thread. This one.
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| Quote ="Duke Eddington"Most posts on here tonight are about Saints.
Did you lot not have a game tonight or something?'"
Yeah but it really wasn't a game worth talking about being honest. Wigan were in 1st gear and Hull looked devoid of ideas.
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| Quote ="MattyB"Errrr... I count one thread. This one.'"
At the time of posting I said ' Posts'. Posts and threads are different! You can have a thread with a thousand posts or one with one. Make of it what you will!
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| Quote ="jjb10"Could someone get a picture of a dummy / baby and stick it on the saints forum, dont know how to do it. Think it would be priceless.
In a honesty it just sum's the guy up, he wouldnt last 5 mins down under. If the Aussie's have seen this me thinks someone is going to get targeted in the 4 nations.'" Too right. And I want the picture for a screensaver. And also because of him I hate staines more than wigan(but only for the night ) but seriously, it doesn`t look good for us on the international scene, does it? A player that can`t do a bit of biff
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| Appreciate the Wigan fans that actually know there rugby league on this thread. Some Saints players should follow suit with Graham. Leeds players had NO right to shake the hand of there tormenter.
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| Quote ="jjb10"Could someone get a picture of a dummy / baby and stick it on the saints forum, dont know how to do it. Think it would be priceless.
In a honesty it just sum's the guy up, he wouldnt last 5 mins down under. If the Aussie's have seen this me thinks someone is going to get targeted in the 4 nations.'"
Like this... No point putting it on the saints site..it would most likely just be removed.
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| Quote ="Man Beast"Appreciate the Wigan fans that actually know there rugby league on this thread. Some Saints players should follow suit with Graham. Leeds players had NO right to shake the hand of there tormenter.'" And you have obviously have only been watching since you got your Sky installed and have NEVER played the game. You bafoon. Don`t comment on something you know nothing about.
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| Quote ="Duke Eddington"At the time of posting I said 'Posts'. Posts and threads are different! You can have a thread with a thousand posts or one with one. Make of it what you will!
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a thread a bout a saints player may have replies about the saints game
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| Graham would do well to remember what he would be without the game. A fat ginger scouser, probably stacking shelves in Asda for a living. Wayne Bennett once wrote that part of having a winning mentality is knowing how to react to a loss.
Graham's girly strop last night was as embarassing a reaction to defeat as I have ever seen. He's obviously the type of bloke that blames everyone but himself for failure.
Still it made for good entertainment for the neutrals. It was nearly as good as Wellens' camp applause towards the away fans at about the same time.
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| Big soft jessie!
Every time there is a bit of biff Graham runs over and scowls and argues, whats the point? Either start throwing punches or walk away. He acts all big and hard and he has done nothing ever to back it up, the aussies will have a field day if he carries on like that!
At the end of the game Senior pulls Wilkin to one side and says ' I'll f**king appologise, how you doin? You alright? Something like that and thats how it should be, yu get tought no matter what happens on the rugby field you shake hands at the end and all is forgotten and you have a pint.
It can't happen again or kids will start doing it and we will end up like football with the argy bargy and no fighting, swearing at the ref and general dummy spitting.
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| Quote ="post"Big soft jessie!
Every time there is a bit of biff Graham runs over and scowls and argues, whats the point? Either start throwing punches or walk away. He acts all big and hard and he has done nothing ever to back it up, the aussies will have a field day if he carries on like that!
At the end of the game Senior pulls Wilkin to one side and says ' I'll f**king appologise, how you doin? You alright? Something like that and thats how it should be, yu get tought no matter what happens on the rugby field you shake hands at the end and all is forgotten and you have a pint.
It can't happen again or kids will start doing it and we will end up like football with the argy bargy and no fighting, swearing at the ref and general dummy spitting.'"
Spot on!
When Feka hit him this time last year off the Ball he should have had the Balls to run over and smack him!
He didn't, he had his big tantrum and Feka lauged at him!
I went to Oz and the Aussies had him on toast! Run to the line ans either A/ Turn shoulder and drop for quick PTB or B/ Turn and find supporting Runner!
Aussies lapped him up all day!
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| Quote ="tugglesf78"I thought initialy the Graham was trying to grab hold of JJBs arm in order to milk a pen for holding down. upon watching the reply i am still of that opinion, however JJB clearly turns the table on Graham and try's to snap his arm off, which is shocking play.
It was good to see Pilkin geting smashed of Senior mind!, just a shame that Gillmore never banjoed that little worm Smith.
The second best game i have seen all year. my first choice was the first game between these two.'" Nah he hit that little **** long
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