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| I am what you would call anti Noble. Nothing against Brian as I think he has been a good appointment for the club. We are in a much better state now than we were when he took over. Given the start to the season we had I think it was fair to say it was perhaps becomming evident that Brian has perhaps taken the club as far as he can.
The last month or so I would say he is slightly redeemed himself a little bit but I think the next two months is what it his new contract is going to come down to. If he can prove to us that the club has indeed turned a corner this year and backs the last month up with some consistancy then I for one will not be complaining if he does get offered a new deal.
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| Stand by for the avalanche!!!!!!!!!
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| I don't really see anything there to support the headline.
"Noble may stay to see the fruition of his work" implies that he'll be here for the remainder of this season, which is understandable given the disruption that mid-season changes can cause.
But I don't see anything in the Lenagan quotes to suggest that Nobby's about to get a new deal.
If we went on to win a trophy, things might change, but given our usual pattern, we could well lose heavily tonight, in which case we'll be back to square one. IL must be aware of this, and, to me, his comments - while undeniably positive - can easily be construed as non-commital encouragement.
Where does it say that Noble may be given a new contract?
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| Good.
The side is playing the rugby the fans want. At the start of the season that was to the detrement of performance. Now we are gaining some consistency there is no problem imo with Noble staying on.
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| Hope he gets a 10 year deal!!!
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| Quote ="The Casual Des"Hope he gets a 10 year deal!!!
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He managed to sell you Mathers, so he can have any deal he wants.
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| Quote ="{Hogan}"He managed to sell you Mathers, so he can have any deal he wants.'"
here here !!!!!!
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| Quote ="Cruncher"I don't really see anything there to support the headline.
"Noble may stay to see the fruition of his work" implies that he'll be here for the remainder of this season, which is understandable given the disruption that mid-season changes can cause.
But I don't see anything in the Lenagan quotes to suggest that Nobby's about to get a new deal.
If we went on to win a trophy, things might change, but given our usual pattern, we could well lose heavily tonight, in which case we'll be back to square one. IL must be aware of this, and, to me, his comments - while undeniably positive - can easily be construed as non-commital encouragement.
Where does it say that Noble may be given a new contract?'"
Spot on. The most tenuous link.
Its only matter of time before the WEP starts talking about "cashed-up St Helens" to finally fit in with the rest of the bollox it writes, or pinches off this board about a week after everyone else has stopped talking about it.
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| Quote ="- Neil -"I am what you would call anti Noble. Nothing against Brian as I think he has been a good appointment for the club. We are in a much better state now than we were when he took over. Given the start to the season we had I think it was fair to say it was perhaps becomming evident that Brian has perhaps taken the club as far as he can.
The last month or so I would say he is slightly redeemed himself a little bit but I think the next two months is what it his new contract is going to come down to. If he can prove to us that the club has indeed turned a corner this year and backs the last month up with some consistancy then I for one will not be complaining if he does get offered a new deal.'"
Pretty much sums up my thoughts on the issue too.
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| Its a top quality article isn't it "Michael Dobson and Paul Cooke are formidable rudders"
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| Quote ="DaveO"Its a top quality article isn't it "Michael Dobson and Paul Cooke are formidable rudders"
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Say that myself i was wonderin if it was spellt wrong.
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| Quote ="DaveO"Its a top quality article isn't it "Michael Dobson and Paul Cooke are formidable rudders"
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| Quote ="Alex BP'"www.wigantoday.net/warriors/Lenagan-hints-at-new-deal.5272478.jp
=redWARNING: NOT SUITABLE VIEWING FOR THOSE CALLED DAVEO '"
Think you will find i called this before the Magic weekend
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| Quote ="Andy Greg"Think you will find i called this before the Magic weekend'"
No offence mate but not sure yet there is anything "to call", infact it is probably where the "story" originated.
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| Quote ="jonh"No offence mate but not sure yet there is anything "to call", infact it is probably where the "story" originated.'"
Well a deal Has been put to B.N.
How can the story come from here when they quote as speaking to I.L. i don't get that one at all sorry.
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| More of the same.
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| Quote ="Cruncher""Noble may stay to see the fruition of his work"'"
Except it actually says Quote Brian will be here to see the fruition of his work.'"
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| Its only fair to admit as a BN sceptic that things have not gone well for me over the last few weeks. Obviously I hope that things continue to go badly for me and that in the end BN proves me completely wrong, with Wigan winning the 2009 GF, thrashing Stains 27-0!
I'm still worried though that we are all going to be disappointed come the end of the season (and possibly much sooner than that) ... I do hope IL doesn't do anything too rash... for me the jury is still out on BN, though a few more weeks of performances like we've had recently will convince the remaining Noble doubters I suspect...
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| Quote ="AJ"Except it actually says'"
Are we being pedantic here, or what?
His contract ends at the end of this year. He 'can' or 'may or 'will' see the fruition of his work by staying here until the end of this season. That comment doesn't in any way equate to Brian Noble being offered a new contract.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Are we being pedantic here, or what?
His contract ends at the end of this year. He 'can' or 'may or 'will' see the fruition of his work by staying here until the end of this season. That comment doesn't in any way equate to Brian Noble being offered a new contract.'"
no it doesn't, its quite an ambiguous quote, read into it what you will. i have a said a couple of times on here not to get carried away with recent form. i also said i would reserve judgement when we have played kr and warrington. we have lost to kr, regardless of controvesy, and warrington are on the up. we have not achieved anything in our last four wins other than what should happen at wigan. you dont find leeds and saints wetting themselves over beating mediocre teams. its when you grind out results against gritty teams that will fight tooth and nail, whether you play badly or not. noble needs to go, he saved us from relegation but we have hit a wall and me for one am not satisfied with a 4 game winning run been the highlight of a season.
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| Quote ="lothlorian"no it doesn't, its quite an ambiguous quote, read into it what you will. i have a said a couple of times on here not to get carried away with recent form. i also said i would reserve judgement when we have played kr and warrington. we have lost to kr, regardless of controvesy, and warrington are on the up. we have not achieved anything in our last four wins other than what should happen at wigan. you dont find leeds and saints wetting themselves over beating mediocre teams. its when you grind out results against gritty teams that will fight tooth and nail, whether you play badly or not. noble needs to go, he saved us from relegation but we have hit a wall and me for one am not satisfied with a 4 game winning run been the highlight of a season.'"
Given the conditions tonight it was all about the result, we came up short. The commentary seemed to suggest we played dumb rugby at times tonight, but i stand to be corrected on that. First test of our credentils first fail, next week now becomes massive.
In the mean time given IL is in Australia i would hope he talks to few coches t lest to assess there interest in the job for 2010 in order to get a view of the bigger picture regarding BN's future.
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| Quote ="jonh"Given the conditions tonight it was all about the result, we came up short. The commentary seemed to suggest we played dumb rugby at times tonight, but i stand to be corrected on that. First test of our credentils first fail, next week now becomes massive.
In the mean time given IL is in Australia i would hope he talks to few coches t lest to assess there interest in the job for 2010 in order to get a view of the bigger picture regarding BN's future.'"
noble only knows one way to play. in this country with how the weather is etc etc we need a tactically sound coach who can adapt a teams playing style to suit any situation. kr have the best coach in super league in morgan imo. we need someone similar ( or poach him ) i am not anti noble but we need to move on and move forward.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Are we being pedantic here, or what?
His contract ends at the end of this year. He 'can' or 'may or 'will' see the fruition of his work by staying here until the end of this season. That comment doesn't in any way equate to Brian Noble being offered a new contract.'"
I truly don't believe that is what he is refering to in terms of this season and anyone who does is imo naive.
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| I will be gutted if Noble gets a new deal.
Season tickets will decline rapidly if he does IMO losing out on money as well as having to put up with same old same old next season.
Think about what your doing Lenegan.
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