I can barely remember Ben Thaler through out the game, which is the way it should be.

He controlled a high speed, aggressive derby very, very well but let the game flow.

I`ll second that.

Thirded.

Watch it back Alex. You can see it in the archives of the site you saw me on the other week if you've not SkyPlus'd it.

watch it again,ok not many penalties,but the few there were ie mcilorm,was never a penalty.to me if we are playing by the rules average.

The most atrocious miss of a knock-on aside, yes, he was mustard.......

Honestly?

I thought Wigan got nothign out of the officials tonight.


Every 50:50 went against us.


I honestly don't think the ref had a good game.


Btw imo Hock scored a try.

The Wigan knock on that Eddie and Stevo were moaning about, Phelps offloading in the tackle was never a knock on, infact the ref should have wiped the tackle count.

Tough call though, and i agree good performance tonight from the ref.

I thought Hock's effort was a good try too. Looked like his body still had momentum over the line, rather than him being stopped and reaching out. Course, that wasn't Thaler's decision. Will have to watch it again.

Missed a blatant forward pass for Ainscoughs 2nd Try, but maybe that was down to the TJ to spot.

you missed the blatant stripping of the ball by pryce 3 in the tackle!

Probs the best game by a ref this season, what ive seen. Apart the the missed knock on 9.5 out of 10 well done

Once he raised his elbow it was always going to be a no try. It s the thing that infuriates me most about Hock, he is so close to being a top player, but simply lacks a bit of a brain and does not seem to learn from his errors.

I've watched it again a few times and I'm not convinced either way, 50/50 call IMHO.

Watch the video back, both teams had a couple of harsh calls that evened it up.

He didn't make any glaring howlers but I though his policing of the PTB was poor. Saints were not square all night and he never pinged them once.

It's one thing letting the game flow but at some point you have to apply the rules.

Dave

he is the best ref in the league at the moment imo

I agree, Video refs always watch for double movement in slow motion though which is totally pointless.

quote="Saint Simon"he is the best ref in the league at the moment imo'"

No problems with Thaler tonight. I think he's the best of the lot at the moment.

oh

Apart from a couple of brain farts towards the end he had a fantastic game tonight.

to be fair, the refs have been superb this year I think

Thought he had a good game, a few howlers but OK

He's from Platt Wazz isn't he?

It was a text book double movement. The rules are clear on this, once the ball carrying arm touches the ground the player is tackled as long as an opposition player is touching him. If the tackled player then slides over the line without moving the ball carrying arm then the tackle is deemed complete at the point the slide stops. If a player lifts the ball carrying arm and advances the ball this is classed as a double movement. Defo no try.

Apart from the forward pass Ainscough's try was well taken by a young lad, i thought he was in touch but watching it on telly at home he did very well to lift his leg.

Well done tonight, its nice to have the competative derby back. Cant believe sky have demoted us to Thursday night and moved the hull derby to good friday.

Wakefield