got no case to answer to tv does not show anything

It mustn't show who cleaned out Tommy either!

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good news for lima, wigan and the lad's leg he nearly didn't break this time

Owes the team a massive game on Friday.

Needs to show us why we signed him.

That's great news and a real boost for Friday

Agreed.

I fully expected him to miss out this week, so his availability is a real boost.

If he could arrange to put Roby on his 'arris early on it'd be much obliged

Lima is just a liability.

I can't think of a positive contribution he's made.

The Jury's still out on Finch also.

Of this years three marquee signings only Hoffman has cut the muster so far.

Quote ="wigsey"Lima is just a liability. [uI can't think of a positive contribution he's made.[/u The Jury's still out on Finch also. Of this years three marquee signings only Hoffman has cut the muster so far.'" He's arguably out played Coley www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011 Very favourable v Prescott, who people seem to think is playing out of his skin www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011 v Mossop he comes out well too www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011 Apart from penalties and suspensions, he's doing very well. I can only conclude that some people were expecting an 80 min version of Feka.

Quote ="wigsey"Lima is just a liability. [uI can't think of a positive contribution he's made.[/u The Jury's still out on Finch also. Of this years three marquee signings only Hoffman has cut the muster so far.'" He's arguably out played Coley www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011 Very favourable v Prescott, who people seem to think is playing out of his skin www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011 v Mossop he comes out well too www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011 Apart from penalties and suspensions, he's doing very well. I can only conclude that some people were expecting an 80 min version of Feka.

Metres per carry

Mossop 7.25
Lima 7.11
Prescott 6.6
Coley 6.17

Bear in mind that Prescott also receives the ball from kick off so there's an easy 10 yards each time too.

I appreciate Yardage isn't the be all and end all of being a prop but I do think he's coming in for some harsh treatment on here.

steady on I never said he was as bad as Feka.

Feka did about 18 minutes a match and was a defensive liability.

lima is certainly not that bad. Interesting on the stats side though re Coley and Prescot

The Feka comparison was to suggest that people were expecting a blockbusting prop who could do 80 mins. I genuinely think that's what some people were expecting and that's why there's a general disappointment with Lima. I hadn't seen anything of him so I was quite open minded about what he's be like. Hence me not being too disappointed.

I know stats don't tell the whole story but they do give an insight into the work he's doing.

That's a bit like me saying "apart from eating 3 of the neighbours kids, our rottie walks very well on the lead!"

It's not though really is it

he puts himself about when hes on and does a lot of the hard work that goes un noticed ala fielden.

Lima had a top game on Friday and looks to be really settling in now. He's obviously had his problems but hopefully he can now stay clear of them because it's obvious he's a class prop IMO. He isn't a Feka type by any stretch and why I wouldn't put him quite in the same class I'd compare his style to James Graham in the fact that he gets his work done through quantity of carries and tackles rather then quality. He is an aggressive grafter rather then a high impact prop.

Could not agree more.......

I think that the work he does in defence can really help the team out and because he does not do any of the flashy moves he gets bad comments ??

We need tough characters like Lima in the team and when Stuey's back also, it will be a different picture altogether.

Dan

I always notice Stu

Yes that's right, it especially goes unnoticed by the disciplinary panel:

"The panel ruled that the footage was not clear enough to determine the point of contact or whether Lima put his opponent's knee joint at unnecessary risk of injury."

He's going to end someone's career soon, maybe that work will go unnoticed too.

Lima has done ok and will continue to improve.

Still gives away to many penalties for me tho.

Correct me if I'm wrong but he conceded 2 quick fire penalties on Friday which walked Hull KR all the way up the pitch and then they scorred.

Thats innocent in my book buddy, but if you want a witch hunt carry on.

How long has Lima been playing?
How many careers has he ended.

I posted ages ago when I heard this "new directive" was coming that it was another knee jerk reaction.



What the RFL should do is to instigate a six sigma project into the types of tackles that actually cause injuries, and which teams/players are most responsible.
Then do something about it.

That's how it works in the real world, but this is the reactionary RL we're talking about.

I'm reasonably happy with his form. I definitely wouldn't doubt his commitment to the course, the effort he shows in defense each week is tremendous. Defensively he's one of our best, even if does get it wrong on occasions.

Hes had a long career and hasnt ended anyones career has he?

The ban he did get for this showed clearly that he hit above the knee and slipped down yet he was banned for that still so I think if you want to moan then you've got to take that into account too.

So you really want to get into that argument or are you done?