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I suspect we might see Davies in for Marshall.

Agreed, and I would approve of that. Both have excellent qualities, but Davies is the more natural right winger, and better in defence and kick returns. Marshall is faster, and a better finisher overall, but needs a more typical centre like Gildart, rather than the excellent but unpredictable and a little selfish Gelling.

www.therhinos.co.uk/2017/07/19/r ... gan-clash/ If we dont win this we have got serious problems.

www.therhinos.co.uk/2017/07/19/r ... gan-clash/ If we dont win this we have got serious problems.

well, given that most of them looked to be thinking more of their holidays than anything to do with the game last week, any "problems" are already well rooted.
Personnally I've written this season off & if it weren't for a bad back which actively prevents me from getting there this week, I'm not sure I need the agro or the dangerous blood pressure watching that shower at all.

That's a shocking 'injury' list!!

Clearly most are being rested ahead of next week but we'll take it. As for our team, the time has come for the Wrecking ball to be given a boot up his lazy backside and to be dropped. Dependant on his reaction that could be useful ahead of the semi if he takes it in the right way and starts to put some effort in to the basics (like being bothered to play the ball correctly).

Sadly there aren't enough options to drop one or two others or enough time to change too much around before the semi. I'd go-

Tomkins
Davies Gelling Gildart Burgess
Williams Leuluai
Clubb Powell Wells
Bateman Sutton Lockers

Tautai Isa Field McIlorum

Isa is wasted out wide and needs to play through the middle for me. I was impressed with Sutton in the second row last year and young Wells looks for all money a prop. Leeds are inexperienced enough to try a couple of things.

Think FPN would be quite happy to be dropped NK . Think he gave up a long time ago

Regards , EW

And a dominant win at that! Can't remember the last time we properly spanked someone, and with that squad Leeds are practically bent over with their kecks round their ankles waiting for it.

We need more from FPN I'll agree with that but I don't think he deserves all the stick he's getting. When u take out his customary knock on and lazy penalty, technically he's going ok. He lands on his knees and elbows more often than not giving us a quicker play the ball and in defence, the opposition rarely do the same when FPN is in the tackle. I'd be ok with him if we could get more from him and he used his weight and size to its full capacity. With Flower out, there's no way I'd drop him.

Agree, there's definitely been a notable improvement since earlier on in the season too. Frustrating that he seems to have another gear or two in him though.

The really annoying thing for me is he'd picked his form up before that Wire game. He was excellent against Widnes and at Catalans but that performance against Wire wasn't acceptable. He made two basic errors, gave a penalty away and ran for about 35 metres (if o recall correctly from the stats I saw). You add in the fact that he's lazy in defence and it totals a really poor night.

I've backed him up until Thursday. I didn't think he'd been as bad as some would make out but he clearly had more in him. I think we saw that against Widnes and Catalans but to then come up with that garbage against Wire shouldn't be acceptable.

I agree mate but he wasn't on his own on Thursday was he. The whole lot of them (Clubb the exception) were miles off their best and they all have an opportunity to put it right this week. There can be no excuses against a weakened Leeds side at home after an 8 day turnaround. If FPN or anybody dishes up the same tripe this week they deserve all they get from our fans.

I think the team owe the supporters a good performance.

I'd like to think Leeds will have 20+ stuck on them, not convinced though. However if we don't win the game then we have problems!

Tomkins
Davies
Gelling
Gildart
Marshall
Williams
Powell
Tautai
Lealuai
Sutton
Wells
Bateman
Isa

Field
McIlorum
Frank Paul
Clubb

Lealuai is seriously struggling, Powell doesn't have the same influence off the bench. Switch them up.

Think we should start McIlorum on the bench the combat the drop in intensity that normal happens after 20 minutes.

Rest Burgess and Lockers for next week.

He wasn't but he's the only player I look at and think his performances are down to a sheer lack of effort and desire some weeks. Guys like Marshall, Sutton and Williams struggled but if anything you felt they were trying too hard. FPN looks like a guy going through the motions. It's so frustrating because he has the talent to be a huge player for us but his application looks poor. He hasn't looked fit all year which is ordinary after having a full pre season and I'd just love to see Wane shake him up ahead of that cup semi. If he reacts in the right way then he could help us win that game and kick on.

Id honestly prefer to play a full strength Leeds team. We last beat a full (ish) strength team in April. The team needs a reality check as to where they are in comparison to the top teams. It may be that we bounce back brilliantly but Id rather see what would happen against Leeds at 100%.

We could happily send Frank packing now. No great loss.

Swap Burgess and Marshall wing spots as Liam is far better on the left.
Also stop wasting two interchanges with Powell and MM. Powell can and should do 80 mins. MM to be benched and i'changed with Lockers. Bringing Sutton, FPN, MM & Lockers all off within minutes is a disaster.
We need to improve and changes are needed to achieve that.

At least I now understand why Leeds have got 6 start on Sky Bet.....

They now have 20 start on sky bet coupon.

Should we not be resting players as well? Top 4 has pretty much gone and we have a tough semi next week.

Marshall is dreadful under the high ball. Teams have found his weakness now and will expose it. I hope he learns how to deal with it and doesn't go the same way as Shaun Ainscough.

It's almost gone, but as long as there's still a chance we should be going all out to get it. Plus this game is a chance to get some much needed confidence ahead of the semi.

Don't mean to tempt fate but I'd hate Lockers, Williams or Bateman to get injured in a dead rubber ahead of a cup semi. Agreed with regards to confidence of course and generally going for it whilst it's mathematically possible.

We need to get our team to click before Salford. They will not do that on the touchline.