that it's warrington in the final?


real question... people seem to have become very emotional about this cup final thing and i'm just wondering is it more personal due to the rivalry between the two clubs?
would you be as pee'd off if say castleford had beaten you on saturday?


to quote ROBINSON

"DISCUSS"

Personally I hate losing to Warrington but I'm a grown up and I was pretty much over it on Saturday night. We have this rivalry with Saints but they've been so far ahead of us in recent years that it's diluted it due to me expecting to lose. Obviously this makes it better when we win but those opportunities have been few and far between in recent years.

There does seem to be quite a vile rivalry between our 2 clubs sets of fans and it's one of the few games were there does seem to be isolated incidents of trouble. I'm not sure where this comes from because it doesn't really exist between Wigan and any other club.

I probably would have been more pee'd off if Cas had beet us due to them being crap.

Not bothered that it was Warrington who beat us much like I wasnt when Catalans beat us its the way we didnt turn up for either game that annoyed me.

My feelings exactly

Bottling two very winnable gmes concerns me more than who it was against

int that bad since we beat leeds and done well against saints all the games we played them this season, warrington will probs lose to hudds anyway and its not as if it the grand final.

Fair points tbh, it's just i get the feeling on here and the VT that certain wigan fans are very emotional about the whole thing still.
i think friday night should be a classic game that could go either way, just hope that a residue of anger is not present.
tbh i love the wind up and banter that flies arround pre and post match but really feel fans should focus on upcoming matches rather than the past!

oh i will join in with the wembley chants on friday, it's only right

We'll give you directions if you need mate

I think we'll do you by 20 points on Friday.

I wouldn't expect anything less

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I just hope nobody rises to any bait post match on Friday. I'm not taking my 6 year old son for the first time this year due to the minority of idiots who will be attending this match.

God you're obsessed. Do you fancy me or something?

Lets get one thing straight. You will not find a single Wigan fan complaining about Warrington being in the final, in terms of how much they deserve it. You stuffed us, so therefore you clearly deserve it. That was never in question.

What you seem incapable of understanding, was that my topic was about the RFL's ability to sell the game to outsiders, not a whinge about Wigan not getting there. But that's for that thread, not this one.

i couldnt care less who it was that beat us.

we lost.......end of.

i'll be supporting hudds in final btw.

Hang on a minute, your all being very unfair to our Wire friend on here. He doesn't know what it's like to win a semi. We do we've won plenty!

As has been said by all, no one is bothered by Wire winning they were better by a long way and deserve to be at Wembley. If we're cheesed off it's the way our lot played, or didn't whichever way you look at it.

It's been like that for as long as I can remember, which surprises me, because apart from certain pockets like you get everywhere, Warrington is a reasonable area.

Warrington have, apart from a short spell in the 90s, always been our bogey team. We could not beat them for love nor money when I first got into the game, and the same has been true of late. The fiercest matches, for me, have never been the Wigan/Saints ones - they have been the Wigan/Warrington ones. They've been the closest games, they've been the dirtiest games, especially when people like Les Boyd and Paul Cullen played for them, and the results were never foregone conclusions. You can't say the same for Wigan/Saints Matches.

Then there's the Widnes situation. Warrington's traditional rivals have spent most of the last few years in the lower division, so who can Warrington hate now? Not St Helens, because they've been too good for them. No, they'll go for the team that they've half a chance of beating, and still have that 'aura' of being just that bit more well known than them. Winning as an underdog is a great feeling. Remember Murrayfield?

Irrespective of our current position as 'distinctly average', Wigan are still seen as the team everyone wants to stuff. People have long memories, and I've no doubt that people feel the same about St Helens and Leeds, and will do for the next 20 years, no matter how crap they become in that period.

Warrington games were the only ones my dad would never take me to, which is a shame, really.

I tell a lie. He wouldn't take me to St Helens games either, but that was more to do with the fact St Helens matches were p155 ups.

I have become used to losing to saints and seeing them win things but wire is a different matter. It's not like they are going to match the success we have had in the super league era but for them to have a better season than us is painful to take.

Losing to wire in the semi was sad but huddersfield beating the scousers made up for it so it wasnt a bad weekend.

i'm dead old me ! been 3 times before

that's really sad, i'm taking my 8 year old, i kinda think people are better than that, i hope they are!

it's rugby league ffs i hope as a sport we're better than football fans

As Pemps said, I think most Wigan fans were over it by Saturday night. That's the cup for you - there can be only two in the final, and nearly everyone else has to get knocked out by someone. It's not as if there's anyone in the entire league who isn't used to being knocked out of the CC.

It matters less about who did it, then the manner of it. Warrington deserved their win, but Wigan can do a lot better than that - something we could say about the last two semi-finals they've appeared in. This 'bottling the big games' factor is the biggest sore point re. Saturday, but it doesn't only refer to Saturday.

I predict the Wire fans to attempt a big Wembley wind-up on Friday, but I also predict that it will go quiet very quickly if Wigan play as well as they can.

calm down(is there any scouse in you?)



i stole your "discuss" theme which you seem to use a lot, nothing else, other posters on here appeared at times to be a little more annoyed with losing to warrington than other teams that's all, i made no reference to your post, although i did read it.

i cannot know if i fancy you, i've never met you! pm me a picture and i'll let you know




but to answer your question, to sell to non RL fans the profile of the game needs to be higher in the media for that to happen, i personally think the cup final attracts core fans not many others.
the RL do very little in comparison to true fans and the word of mouth they use to promote the game to outsiders.
i personally work in a non rugby league hotbed but invite people to come to matches to check it out, some stay and become fans (one is now a wigan fan! season ticket holder with his son).

Not at all. It would have annoyed me more if it was St.Helens in the final. As soon as they lost on Sunday, the bad feeling about us not reaching the final almost went away.

ah would you have not prefered us to beat saints 40 nil at wembley?

Warrington and Hull are the only 2 games as a Saints fan where I feel that 'edge' where there could be trouble. Warrington traditionally wasnt a good place to go and neither was Hull and although they have both got better with new stadiums there is still a large problem element with them I feel. Wigan and Saints are massive rivals but I never feel uncomfortable or on edge at derby games.

me neither

No, I'd rather they didn't get there at all.

just having this thread on your site definitely suggests it does still annoy you!