I'll start with the obvious cliche - after that ref tonight, the games gone.

I honestly thought I'd never say this, but I don't want Wigan to play next week. Even after losing 75-0 to our bitterest rivals, I still wanted to see us play. Next week, I want nothing to do with the sport. It's a become a parody of everything that it once sold itself on.

Enough is enough and I want either the club, or players to go on strike. If the club grew some balls and publicly announced it was striking, I'd happily pay into a crowd fund or buy a "none match" ticket to support them. I'm a ST holder too.

I can't think of anything worse than going to watch what will
undoubtedly be a pen fest next week. The game after that, who knows who'll be out there.

RU, a game I used to play and enjoy watching, has killed itself. Don't let that happen to British RL.

I’m struggling to put my thoughts in to words at the minute. I just don’t know where we go. Rich Whiting tweeted that literally one insurer would cover the sport and they’re pushing all this. We’re skint and cannot afford to push back, so where can the sport go? To think we’ve got such a big game tomorrow, I’ve actually felt pretty deflated since that red card. A feeling is hanging over me that we should enjoy tomorrow because we might not see another game of the rugby league we fell in love with for a long time (well not in the flesh anyway. Maybe we’ll see it on the TV from Australia).

My thoughts exactly. I'd say we've got one game of "proper RL" left and that's tomorrow. I'd even say that tomorrow is right on the line of what I'd class as "proper RL" too. It literally can't go beyond this point and be classed as RL.

Can't believe I'm saying this, but maybe Derek's breakaway league might be the only answer. Either that, or the NRL comes in to save us. A step change is obviously needed.

Just do spear tackles. The mrp will realise it was a Wigan player and let then off, and instead blame the attacker

If I could wish a serious injury on anyone, it would be you. I'd happily watch it happen on repeat too.

You really are the steam off a t*rd a whopper of the highest order

I gave up after 2011 the game dies then! i cannot believe 24,000 people have paid 30 quid to watch this cr@p game

Why do you comment so much if your not bothered anymore? Another whopper hitting his keyboard tonight

Oh and it was 32 quid I paid!!

Whatever happens, tomorrow will be a sticking plaster over the gaping wound that the RFL have self-inflicted on us. Whether we win or lose, it won't matter. The time for some kind of aggressive response is now.

Agree with the other posters comments about the red card.. never in a million years was it sending off not even a yellow card.. frustrating for me as Wire to see that happen. Interesting that Paul Vaughan in his Sky interview was all for the new rules put in place.. wonder how many other players are onboard with the changes..

Fans are worried about the game and you can do is come up with this sh*t,just f*ck off will you and let the adults talk.No one, absolutely no one wants you on here.
Go and watch your union and see that implode instead little man.

Enjoying NRL this morning even though it's only their pre season. It feels normal, and it's kind of medicinal after what happened last night. Good luck to you guys today, and lift that trophy.

While I agree the game has probably shifted too far, and I'm certainly glad I've finished officiating, we can't place the blame entirely at the door of the RFL.

If things had not changed, we wouldn't have any form of RL to watch in this country. Too many people have backed the game into a corner. I can see a point where the impact of the cards will finally see a real adjustment from players and it will improve things.

I know several people will call this a dream or stupidity, but it's the only way our game can survive and I have to try and believe it can.

The problem is not the outlawing of head tackles.

Head tackles have long been illegal, and rightly so.

It's the outlawing of accidental contact with the head, as in last night.

You can't outlaw something you have no control over. If accidental contact with the head is a sending-off offence, you will have no rugby league.

It's that simple.

Just no on every level and with all due respect, as I don't know you, that's exactly what I'd expect a ref to say.

Firstly, you can't adjust for things like last night. Heck, I'm not even in favour of lowering the tackle height. It would just mean softer defence, more stupid offloads and games ending 60 points to 40. Give me a 8 - 4 Wigan Vs Manly, or a low scoring, attritional SOO game any day of the week. Brutal defence, big hits, hard running and a bit of good old biff.

There is nothing wrong with the game. Players don't need to be protected. The game doesn't need it's gladiatorial elements removing from it.

I don’t enjoy the game anymore which ultimately will lead to me not going at all. The excitement of hearing and seeing the big hits is what attracted me to the game all those years ago. But now, watching it is akin to looking forward to a pint of Stella and being served a Skol shandy
It’s sad times and unfortunately I don’t see a way forward

I’m in favour of the clampdown on head high contact. With the legal action being taken by past players the game has no choice. Insurance is obviously a problem though the NRL must have insurance so why not approach that company?

I’d go as far as to say that 90 - 99% of high tackles are accidental. Some are simply an accident, others due to circumstances or down to poor technique. I’ve no issue with players being sent from the field, it puts the onus on them to get their technique right. If they do and it still happens then it’s a penalty and no more. Ellis against Cas is a prime example of that. His tackle position was good, he was wrapping the arms and the Cas player slipped into him so the attackers height changed fractionally before contact. Conversely Watts, although not intended, his body shape was tall and arm wrapping so although Dupree was low he did not change height therefore red card & 4 matches.

The game simply HAS to apply some common sense. I get why the red card was given against brown, by the letter of the law direct forceful contact with no obvious mitigating factors.

I’d argue that Currie swung round and went into Brown as much as Brown went into Currie. There was literally nothing either player could do about it. It wasn’t a head butt. There was no swinging arms, no recklessly throwing arms and legs in random directions. Just a simple accidental clash of heads.

I quite like an idea muted by Wilkin last night. If they’re not sure about whether it’s yellow or red sin bin the player and give the VR 10 mins to review then upgrade to a red if appropriate. Perhaps introduce an orange card for this.

All that said I’m not going to throw my toys out of the pram and suddenly stop watching a sport I’ve loved for 45 years because the RFL have not quite got the interpretation right for a new law introduced for the best intentions.

I mostly agree with this. I'd argue that player welfare is important, but it's also plain that the best and surest way to protect players is for them not to participate at all.

It's their choice. As it always has been.

No one is forced to play rugby league. And anyone who says they didn't know how dangerous it was is simply lying. They shouldn't even be given the time of day, never mind be allowed to put a court case together.

In all honesty, I don't know what rankles with me more: the fact this is happening just when we were entering a new age of mass publicity, or the names of some of the players who are causing it.

You talk about two-bit troublemakers. That doesn't even come close to describing them.

This isn’t hyperbole but on Good Friday we genuinely could be looking at 11 v 11

With a capacity crowd and a hostile atmosphere it could happen.

If they carry on with the bans that 11 v 11 might be from kick off!

I’m going to Hudds today with my eldest lad. He’s 13 and wants to tick off the away grounds now like I did at a similar age. He’s been to Wigan, Salford and Leeds and now obviously wants to do more.

However there’s a very real chance the game could be ruined by a controversial decision. Granted we are no angels but there’s a real worry in me that a Sironen/Matautia walks early doors and it’s game over.

It’s a strange feeling going to games at the moment

Sadly, like so much usualy does, it comes down to money. Some ex-players and grubby lawyers have a sniff of getting a big payout and hang the consequences - if it destroys the game which gave them a living originally then that doesn't bother their conscience one iota (assuming they have one).

Both codes of rugby are going the the same way (with RU a bit further along) - as a consequence of the blame someone else culture and the contant using of the latest information and current hand-wringing thiking to apply to the past (happening in so many areas not just sport). Sadly RL is too small in this country - if the ex-players win big then it could be disastorous.

Sport is about entertainment - that is something that a lot of sports are loosing sight of.

Is there still a "sending off sufficient" option in the disciplinary ? It will be absolutely shocking if Nu Brown gets a ban on top of that sending off. He's made a brilliant statement about last night https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/there-ha ... WA4G2s3hIE

Is there still a "sending off sufficient" option in the disciplinary ? It will be absolutely shocking if Nu Brown gets a ban on top of that sending off. He's made a brilliant statement about last night https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/there-ha ... WA4G2s3hIE

When you hear about the insurance issues, it’s clearly a money problem and we don’t have the finance to make it go away. I look at football and they started making a thing of concussions last year but even when players clashed heads or looked dazed from an elbow or similar they didn’t really bother doing anything, even though they’d brought in new protocols. This season I hear nothing of it whatsoever. It’s just brushed under the carpet and I can only think the lack of a threat of financial oblivion makes it easy to turn a blind eye.

It’s been much the same for years with things like recreational drugs use. Rugby League players picking up bans of 2 years here and there, whereas football players must have all been squeaky clean and living an athletes life…honest! The same goes for legal cases, were trials miraculously fall apart or not guilty verdicts come through against all odds. A certain player from a Merseyside club was accused of a crime around 18 months ago and seems to have just disappeared of the face of the earth since and it doesn’t get spoke of. I’m in no way one of those conspiracy theory nuts but I’ve no doubt money is helping.

Rugby League looks to be an easy target for ambulance chasers and insurance companies. How we break that is anyone’s guess. A breakaway league? The NRL taking us over? Player waivers? Not a clue tbh but I hope somebody has.