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| Super League Dream Team to be revealed at 7pm, who’s everyone’s team?
This is mine:
Welsby
Miski
Kenny-Dowall/Keighran
Wardle
Johnstone
French
Lam
Amone
Ipape
Vaughan
Whitley
Linnett
Smithies
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| Quote ="CJamesy"Super League Dream Team to be revealed at 7pm, who’s everyone’s team?
This is mine:
Welsby
Miski
Kenny-Dowall/Keighran
Wardle
Johnstone
French
Lam
Amone
Ipape
Vaughan
Whitley
Linnett
Smithies'"
Going off SKY highlights it should be a majority of Leigh players
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| I’ve not concerned myself with any other position than centre and I say that because of how flabbergasted I am that so many predicted teams on social media don’t have Wardle in them! 24 try contributions (15 try’s and 9 assists) is well clear of any other centre in the comp. He’s been defensively extremely sound as well. If he doesn’t get in, it’s time to give up on bothering with a dream team because it’s not being picked on merit.
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| Welsby, Miski/Johnstone, Keighran, Wardle, Charnley, French, Lam, Amone, Ipape, Vaughan, Batchelor, Sironen, Asiata
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| Shoe ins - Welsby, French, Vaughan, Amone, Lam, Asitia, 2 of Miski/Johnstone/Charnley, SKD.
As long as them lot are in they’ve done a decent job
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"Welsby, Miski/Johnstone, Keighran, Wardle, Charnley, French, Lam, Amone, Ipape, Vaughan, Batchelor, Sironen, Asiata'"
Batchelor from Hull KR I take it?
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| So it’s
Welsby, Charnley, SKD, Wardle, Johnstone, French, Lam, Amone, Ipape, Vaughan, Watkins, Farrell, Asiata
Watkins is really random.
SKD has 7 tries and 4 assists all season…
I predicted it but 5 Leigh players when they finished 5th is crazy.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"So it’s
Welsby, Charnley, SKD, Wardle, Johnstone, French, Lam, Amone, Ipape, Vaughan, Watkins, Farrell, Asiata
Watkins is really random.
SKD has 7 tries and 4 assists all season…
I predicted it but 5 Leigh players when they finished 5th is crazy.'"
The media love in on twitter for SKD is weird IMO. He’s a solid player and has had a great career but loads wanted him in and Wardle out! 25 try contributions vs 11, less metres made by SKD, about a third of the tackles (with similar missed tackle amounts) more errors, more penalties given away and on and on. The media is getting a bit silly with its bias towards the underdog story.
As for the whole team, it’s not a million miles off. The Watkins pick is fall of your chair staggering but there always seems to be one.
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| Saw this on Twitter, amazing stat.
Bevan French
2020 - Dream Team FB
2021 - Injured whole season
2022 - Dream Team Winger
2023 - Dream Team Standoff
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"Saw this on Twitter, amazing stat.
Bevan French
2020 - Dream Team FB
2021 - Injured whole season
2022 - Dream Team Winger
2023 - Dream Team Standoff'"
He's a special player. I hope we have him for the next five years.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"Saw this on Twitter, amazing stat.
Bevan French
2020 - Dream Team FB
2021 - Injured whole season
2022 - Dream Team Winger
2023 - Dream Team Standoff'"
Still can’t believe he didn’t win Man Of Steel in 2020 and Paul McShane did. Trent Barrett levels of robbery that. He has to win it this year, Lam has been good but hasn’t stood out like French has. Hasn’t done much since the CC final.
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| I thought it was a joke at first when someone posted the list.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"So it’s
Welsby, Charnley, SKD, Wardle, Johnstone, French, Lam, Amone, Ipape, Vaughan, Watkins, Farrell, Asiata
Watkins is really random.
SKD has 7 tries and 4 assists all season…
I predicted it but 5 Leigh players when they finished 5th is crazy.'"
I would add SKD and Farrell to the random list
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| Quote ="Itchy Arsenal"I would add SKD and Farrell to the random list'"
Top second rower for metres made, 2nd for tackles and tries scored, an average year for Farrell by his standards is still better than any second rower.
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| Quote ="CJamesy"Top second rower for metres made, 2nd for tackles and tries scored, an average year for Farrell by his standards is still better than any second rower.'"
Absolutely correct. He’s that good that an average year by his standards, is better than pretty much every other second rower. A lot of people’s people mention Whitley, yet Faz has made nearly twice the amount of metres he has. He’s made a couple of hundred more tackles than most of the other second rowers in the conversation. He’s scored more try’s than any of them. It all just points to what a freak he is because we’d all say he’s not been on top of his game but he still easily warrants his place. He isn’t competing against himself, he’s competing against his peers.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Absolutely correct. He’s that good that an average year by his standards, is better than pretty much every other second rower. A lot of people’s people mention Whitley, yet Faz has made nearly twice the amount of metres he has. He’s made a couple of hundred more tackles than most of the other second rowers in the conversation. He’s scored more try’s than any of them. It all just points to what a freak he is because we’d all say he’s not been on top of his game but he still easily warrants his place. He isn’t competing against himself, he’s competing against his peers.'"
Given our conversation the other week when I was off with my knee and you provided a much needed distraction what do you think of Welsby over Field? Interestingly the Wigan fans who have posted their own team selection on here have all had Welsby over him too.....
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| Quote ="Stu M"Given our conversation the other week when I was off with my knee and you provided a much needed distraction
what do you think of Welsby over Field? Interestingly the Wigan fans who have posted their own team selection on here have all had Welsby over him too.....'"
I agree with it because it's picked over a full season and Field has missed too many games to get in, just as Miski missed too many at the beginning and just as guys like Sironen have missed too many as well. Sironen is a better player than Kallum Watkins but he's not in because that's not how it works.
I re-watched our game last night and Field was immense actually. I hadn't realise just how well he'd played on the night. He does things Welsby just cannot do but I guess we're going over old ground. He's a better fullback than Welsby IMO but Welsby would be better playing at 6. Interesting to look at the final tallies for try contributions (trys and assists). Field finished on 37, compared to Welsby on 39. Field did that in 7 less games. He missed a quarter of the season and had to spend time getting back from a bad hamstring injury.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I agree with it because it's picked over a full season and Field has missed too many games to get in, just as Miski missed too many at the beginning and just as guys like Sironen have missed too many as well. Sironen is a better player than Kallum Watkins but he's not in because that's not how it works.
I re-watched our game last night and Field was immense actually. I hadn't realise just how well he'd played on the night. He does things Welsby just cannot do but I guess we're going over old ground. He's a better fullback than Welsby IMO but Welsby would be better playing at 6. Interesting to look at the final tallies for try contributions (trys and assists). Field finished on 37, compared to Welsby on 39. Field did that in 7 less games. He missed a quarter of the season and had to spend time getting back from a bad hamstring injury.'"
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Absolutely correct. He’s that good that an average year by his standards, is better than pretty much every other second rower. A lot of people’s people mention Whitley, yet Faz has made nearly twice the amount of metres he has. He’s made a couple of hundred more tackles than most of the other second rowers in the conversation. He’s scored more try’s than any of them. It all just points to what a freak he is because we’d all say he’s not been on top of his game but he still easily warrants his place. He isn’t competing against himself, he’s competing against his peers.'"
And we have a "Few" of our own fans that say he's finished, been poor, and after one extraordinary chat at Headingley a while back saying "Hes done nothing" (and then proceeded to score a try/set one up IIRC with a trademark break).
Reminds me of someone saying about 4 years ago that "Hes not big enough" etc etc and that we should go for "Someone like Dom Peyroux" to replace him
One thing I think we could agree on is that Liam Farrell is definitely No Dom Peyroux.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Absolutely correct. He’s that good that an average year by his standards, is better than pretty much every other second rower. A lot of people’s people mention Whitley, yet Faz has made nearly twice the amount of metres he has. He’s made a couple of hundred more tackles than most of the other second rowers in the conversation. He’s scored more try’s than any of them. It all just points to what a freak he is because we’d all say he’s not been on top of his game but he still easily warrants his place. He isn’t competing against himself, he’s competing against his peers.'"
Farrell is absolute class and anyone who can't see that is blind as a bat.
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| Quote ="CJamesy"Top second rower for metres made, 2nd for tackles and tries scored, an average year for Farrell by his standards is still better than any second rower.'"
Actually I’m a very big fan of Farrell in fact I’d put him the top 3 most influential players we’ve had so far this century along with SOL and Sam Tomkins.
I rarely look at stats and my view is more than likely clouded by comparing this season versus previous seasons exceptionally high standards of performance.
As an aside the best player imo in the competition isn’t in the 13 and statistically probably isn’t the top in any category but he’d be the first player I’d pick for my starting 13 namely Harry Smith.
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| Quote ="Itchy Arsenal"Actually I’m a very big fan of Farrell in fact I’d put him the top 3 most influential players we’ve had so far this century along with SOL and Sam Tomkins.
I rarely look at stats and my view is more than likely clouded by comparing this season versus previous seasons exceptionally high standards of performance.
As an aside the best player imo in the competition isn’t in the 13 and statistically probably isn’t the top in any category but he’d be the first player I’d pick for my starting 13 namely Harry Smith.'"
I'm interested to see how Smith goes in the pressure games - he's certainly had a cracking season but I've previously felt he has some jitters in him when the pressure is on.
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| Smith is still relatively young. He did come up with that brilliant kick which Marshall got on the end of to score the match winning try in last year's C Cup Final.
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| Quote ="Father Ted"Smith is still relatively young. He did come up with that brilliant kick which Marshall got on the end of to score the match winning try in last year's C Cup Final.'"
Yup, he’s really kicked on and would be my England 7 alongside Williams at 6.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Yup, he’s really kicked on and would be my England 7 alongside Williams at 6.'"
Definitely needs to be England's number 7, but then when i think of it is there any other realistic choices? Dodd maybe but i don't think he has shown the form for it this season.
A player that seems to get mentioned a lot in this discussion as being somebody to pick instead of Smith is Mikey Lewis, but to me he is an out-and-out 6, and Williams is also at his best when playing the 6 role. To me Lewis and Williams are fighting for the same spot and i would choose Williams without a second thought, both of them together would create an imbalance and lack of leadership.
Plus Williams and Smith have both played for Wigan, so that makes them an automatic pick for Wane anyway
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