4-28 against 12 men before yet another interception when it was 12 v 12.

I'm struggling to remember as bad a performance in a single half.

If Peet doesn't get angry after that he never will.

You didn't watch us in 2006 then? Or Leeds and Saints in 2005? Or hidings at multiple places over the years.

Not a great half, but worst ever is a bit of a stretch.

I was there in 2006 and that week in 2005. I can't remember a half as bad as tonight, especially given we had a man advantage for all but 3 minutes of it.

Booooooooooo Ian lenaghan
Booooooooooo Kris Radlinski
Booooooooooo Bloody rubbish Wigan

He should be angry with himself, missed an opportunity to get some combinations tried out, game time for youngsters and injured players back in the fold with low risk. Now we have shown our hand and its a losing one...time to step up.

18 - 40 ? I was working this evening, just seen the result . Dear God !

75-0
70-0

No more needs be said.

So the CC winning coach and second in the table at the min coach needs to be angry with himself and should have picked players that armchair coaches are telling him to use because obviously these coaches know more.Far enough.

He didnt give the interception passes
He didnt fall of tackles
He didnt have enough heart & desire to win this game.
No the players let the coach and the fans down
And I hate bagging players but it just wasnt our day,we will bounce back,hopefully next week.

1st Leeds 24 Wigan 0
2nd Leeds 46 Wigan 0

1st Saints 35 Wigan 0
2nd Saints 40 Wigan 0

You're right. Last night was much worse.

I think the main difference this time to previous defeats was we were so obviously the better team in the first half, Leeds were never in it apart from an interception and we should have been out of site.

2nd half 400% turnaround.
Most of the other games we were expected to get beat and the games never looked like being on top.

Ignore him. He only appears to have a pop at the club.

Bingo!

I knew when posting this Egg Chasing, Jukesay and you would be straight on it. Lads, it is ok to criticise the club or a team performance from time to time if it is deserved.

I did post context, but that is obviously too complex for some posting the 2005 scores at me when the opposition had 13 and were both on a different level to that 2005 team. Letting in 28 against 12 in under 40 minutes and only scoring 4 is right up there.

Oh you're so smart. How lucky we are to have such an intellectual amongst us.

Last three posts from WLA - 2x criticisms of a performance and criticism of a signing in Hampshire. Absolutely nothing in between, nothing about the good run we had before the Hull game & actually, nothing remotely positive really.

I'm happy to criticise the club, but with that comes the other side of the coin and saying well done too.

It was worse than that, it was 4-34 second half

Probably expected too when we have a coach that only got the job because of his accent.

For different reasons, I thought your first half was just as bad. The game should have been over after half an hour. As soon as Leeds cut out the errors Wigan really struggled for field position

And in two of those posts your only response was to criticise me for having the brass neck to point out something that I feel was worthy of criticism.

Just so everyone is aware, could you explain the credit and debit system you want us to follow. How many positive posts do we have to submit before we past the threshold of being able to post a negative one so you don't get upset?

I'll post what I want, when I want, about whatever I feel like, which doesn't seem to be an issue with most of the adults on here.

And the fact I hate Lenagan. Those 2005 defeats were under a different owner, therefore don't count.

You do you mate

Most surprising half of all time quite possibly but not the worst. Comfortable against 13 vs a total capitulation against 12.

Never felt as shell shocked at a game before and pretty much everyone seemed the same.

As most of you will know I definitely fall more in the positive than negative poster bracket but I have to agree with Andy. I was there for the Saints drubbing (but thankfully missed the Leeds) and this was worse than both of those in my opinion. Not in absolute terms of the score, of course but there's more to it than simply that.

The teams that took a drubbing back then were demoralised and struggling teams lacking in quality. They started those games badly and finished them worse! at Saints I remember Chris Ashton getting cheered like he'd scored the winning try at Wembley just for making a half decent run. I remember the singing of "Always look on the bright side of life" and I also remember the team trying, albeit it whilst being completely outclassed.

Compare and contrast to last night. We sit at the top of the league having just put an unbeaten month together in April. We had 6 players deemed international quality and the current leader of the MOS. We had 13 v 12, had completely dominated them for 40 mins and, for God's sake, had an 8 point cushion! I have rarely seen a team so comprehensively collapse when holding all the cards.

Last night was, in context, the worst half by Wigan I have ever seen, without question.

If you take effort and attitude v talent and ability you’d be hard pressed not to conclude it wasn’t our worst half.

The first half didn’t promise much for the second IMO. Leeds were there for the taking, 1man down, playing dismally and seemingly no fight in them. Only being 8 points up was farcical, we should have been 20-30points up by the time Tetevano was sent off. And what little we had switched on for the first half, we ensured it was turned off for the second and just went into total shutdown.

This half has been coming. We weren’t great v Wakey, abysmal v Hull and Leeds made the Hull loss look unlucky. It’s clear we’re looking at a side hammered by injuries, down on confidence and looking like out of ideas.

It’s not irreparable but something has to change and I don’t think it’s too drastic;

1/ Cust to 9 or 13 (spelled with good defenders alongside him)
2/ Rocky to partner Smith

Game plan just needs to be kept simple, plus 1’s from dummy half, runs back into the ruck, make the opposition forwards work in D, shift them around. Use props as battering rams and use our agile back rowers off the back of the props. Compact the defensive line and expose space out wide. I don’t think we have the quality of confidence to be able to throw it around at will or play off the cuff. For me we won’t go far wrong playing a Wane style game plan and whilst it’s not particularly entertaining rugby it’s effective.

Poor choice by the coach for last night and the blame rests with him and his coaching staff.

We went into the game with 1 prop on the bench who is lazy, at bare minimum you need 2 x props on the bench and have done since 1998.

Shorrocks was a stop gap at 6, he, Powell and Smithies are too similar, just tackling machines but no real attacking threat. To have Cust AND O’Neill on the bench was a waste of a bench spot because Cust could play 9 but what’s the point in starting him off the bench? If he’s not fit then play him in the reserves, if he is fit then start him.

Abbas Miski is not a winger, he wants to come flying off his wing all the time so is he really a centre?

What’s up with Thornley, against Wakefield in the reserves he ran hard as he did against Hull FC but in this game he went hiding, don’t think he took a drive in the first half.

These are all issues that presented themselves in the game and should have been rectified by the coaching staff, now just because Lockers and Tommy were class players who worked hard and played very well in a structure it doesn’t mean they have an attacking rugby brain that Briers had, we need another Briers is what we are lacking.

Poor choice by the coach for last night and the blame rests with him and his coaching staff.

We went into the game with 1 prop on the bench who is lazy, at bare minimum you need 2 x props on the bench and have done since 1998.

Shorrocks was a stop gap at 6, he, Powell and Smithies are too similar, just tackling machines but no real attacking threat. To have Cust AND O’Neill on the bench was a waste of a bench spot because Cust could play 9 but what’s the point in starting him off the bench? If he’s not fit then play him in the reserves, if he is fit then start him.

Abbas Miski is not a winger, he wants to come flying off his wing all the time so is he really a centre?

What’s up with Thornley, against Wakefield in the reserves he ran hard as he did against Hull FC but in this game he went hiding, don’t think he took a drive in the first half.

These are all issues that presented themselves in the game and should have been rectified by the coaching staff, now just because Lockers and Tommy were class players who worked hard and played very well in a structure it doesn’t mean they have an attacking rugby brain that Briers had, we need another Briers is what we are lacking.

It was the polar opposite of the Leeds play off defeat, where we went with 4 props on the bench and got injuries in the backs. Ultimately the only other prop he had available was Harvie Hill but he should’ve played him. I don’t question anything about Peet in the slightest, other than I think he has a reluctance to play young players in ‘proper’ games (not dead runners or games where he’s resting everyone). He’s a young coach himself and it feels like he wants to maximise the experience he can get in to the 17.