Apparently social media has blown up this morning especially with Saints fans condemning the inclusion of the Ben Flower incident on the Mish-mash poster hanging up in the Arena which was unveiled yesterday. Thoughts? https://wiganwarriors.com/blog/2022/06/ ... -mishmash/ Quote We were all aware that it couldn’t just be about the greatest moments. There had to be balance & include incidents that the Club are probably not proud of... not too many mind!'"

Apparently social media has blown up this morning especially with Saints fans condemning the inclusion of the Ben Flower incident on the Mish-mash poster hanging up in the Arena which was unveiled yesterday. Thoughts? https://wiganwarriors.com/blog/2022/06/ ... -mishmash/ Quote We were all aware that it couldn’t just be about the greatest moments. There had to be balance & include incidents that the Club are probably not proud of... not too many mind!'"

Yeah I wouldn't have done that - it's in bad taste.

I worked in education in Wigan in 2014 and remember visiting primary schools the week after the GF. I saw two separate incidents of children imitating Ben Flower's punch - one 8 year old and one 7 year old.

Obviously there were significant repercussions for the Saints player as well.

Fair play. I’m staggered that someone at Wigan sanctioned this and signed it off. People forget that Hohaia retired early due to concussion and to celebrate such a thuggish act is in poor taste. I expected way more from Wigan who at times have been classy with various initiatives.

The “Klonk” narrative that accompanies it makes it even worse. Quite why they would celebrate a losing GF is beyond me.

I actually think it’s a disgrace and I’d be very surprised if they don’t receive an official complaint from Saints and end up apologising and editing the display.

Moreover as a Sport we are trying to introduce ways of reducing concussion and then this…. Unbelievable

It’s part of the clubs history as is the pic of Colin Tyrer being held up by two trainers after being poleaxed at Wembley. People need to get a life they really do.

Love the poster but wouldn’t have included the flower thing, causing another human a brain injury shouldn’t be celebrated.

Let’s take it down and paint the wall magnolia, or is magnolia too offensive?

I wouldn't have had it in personally but it is a big talking point in our SL history even though it's not for the right reasons. He should have painted on the pathetic assault attempt that Hoihia tried to do on Flower before he got his @rse handed to him. As much as Saints will forever whine about it, Hoihia shouldn't have tried to attack him in the first place. I might start a thread every so often about how out of order Fogerty and Nickle were but we aren't that sad, bitter and jealous, i mean, St Helens, hardly anything to be jealous about really is there. We are top the top dogs and they know it. Redvee is great today.

It will get taken down because the Saints fans will cry and whinge about it forever if they don't. It wouldn't be St Helens without having something to moan about would it? I'd think a town consisting of areas like Parr have seen worse things in their lives than a caricature in a private building in Wigan but we live in an age where people can't go to bed without being offended by something in their day. Wokies creep amongst us all day, i just wish they would wear T-shirts that say 'I am offended by everything' so the normal rational folk can avoid them.

Get the pitch forks out.

Wow.

How high is your horse?

Head over to your site and see what has been written about Terry Newton then come back and tell me how great and upstanding your fans are. Take your time.

Spectacularly missing the point. I can’t legislate for fans can I but this is a display tweeted by the official club account and displayed in an official fan venue therefore authorised by the club.

Huge difference.

No he isn’t missing any point. You’ve come on here purely to try and make something out of nothing. I could understand Saints fans if we had won the game because of the flower incident, but we didn’t. You could argue the fact and say that this shows thuggery isn’t the way to go if you want to be victorious. There are numerous ways to look at this and you chose your way.

I didn’t come on here solely to make a point. If I had I would’ve started a thread on it!

Someone else did and asked for peoples thoughts so I gave mine.

There's so many people these days that are bloody snowflakes and are offended by their own shadow

This part of the poster is in poor taste, we’re not talking about a fan site or similar, it’s an official Wigan poster commissioned by the club, on display on club premises, would they have the still of the punch framed in the boardroom? I doubt it.

There are many acts of violence on a rugby field over the years, that Wigan players have perpetrated and been on the receiving end of, you celebrate overcoming these acts, not inflicting them. Farrell with his nose tapped up, Edwards at Wembley with a smashed cheekbone etc.

The 150 years theme has on the whole been handled well and reflects well on the history of the club, and I get that there are images and things were not proud of, but to reduce that image to cartoon strip art with thwack written on it cheapens the club, come on Wigan were better than

And yes redvee is a cesspit and comments on there about newton etc are vile, but saints haven’t turned them into a poster and hung them in the bar

It still is part of our history rather in bad taste but still part of it.

I apologise for my outburst, sorry.

its in bad taste and imo should be changed, if only to avoid any adverse publicity but there are some hilarious comments from holier than thou Saints fans and its great

One of the most famous images in our history.

Bad taste? Possibly.

BTW - LH was regularly knocked out because he couldn't tackle. Who is to say it was due to one punch?

Two

Dirty Wigan b*stard

That first punch is so under-rated, never gets talked about.

I'm surprised LH didn't retire due to embarrassment. Imagine having a 20 yard run up, smacking someone blindsided with all you've got and all that happens is they stagger and then knock you out

I personally wouldn't have included it but there we are.

Am I right in thinking Hohaia had concussion issues prior to that Grand Final? I think the punches may have exacerbated those issues but then he played on after for half a season? In some cases that half season was under sufferance too being "forced" to play and being encouraged to take pain meds to get through.

Saints themselves weren't exactly squeaky clean when it comes to the aftermath of the incident.

Despite all that, I reiterate the fact that I personally wouldn't have included it. It gets replayed a lot. RL/Wigan/That final got a ton of coverage because of it but yeah it shouldn't have been included for me.